Thursday, October 18th, 2007
Is Bill Cosby An Uncle Tom?????
Posted by Bossip Staff
Bill Cosby recently hit up Oprah and discussed his speech in 2004 where he attacked Black parents for buying kids $500 pair of shoes vs. investing in education.
Multi-millionaire Bill Cosby should use all that time he spends talking and find some creative solutions for “ignorance” and poverty.
We are not the only one who thinks Bill Cosby is “out of touch”.
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how is that uncle tomish?
The problem that “us” african americans are having with Bill Cosby is that……”WE CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!”
I concur with Sparkle and I ask the same question as redink
I don’t understand why that comment would make him an Uncle Tom, when parents should be called out for investing more in their children’s appearance than their future. Parents should teach their children to make money and not waste it on items that will be replaced by the newest, hottest trend. Thats why you have people living with their mothers, not paying for child support but have brand new rims and fronts. The right values are not being instilled. I do think this is more of an economic issue than a race issue. I believe people in certain economic brackets, who live in specific demographic areas have this ghetto fabulous outlook on life, that doesn’t go beyond nice clothes, cars and jewelry.
Bill Cosby is valid in his observations. You can say what you want but I have worked nine years as an educator in the public school system and it is a disgrace the way we (Black/African-American)devalued education. Its exhausting when I have two poor children in my class, one black and one white, and the black parent never shows up for anything but more often than not the white parent does. Sadly, it is most often the black child who speaks incorrect english and curses constantly. We have to wake up and stop blaming everyone and take a good look at our behavior. I am saddened daily by what I see in the school. But we continue to be mad a Cosby for airing our dirty laundry. We need to mad at many of our Black parents for creating the mess.
I agree with everyone above. When will we start learning? I don’t have kids but even when I say something along these same lines to folks a year or 2 younger or older than me, all I get is “flack” for “acting like I forgot where I came from”.
yea i agree a lot of black parents do that..but lets not speak for all. i wont say “we” more like “they” because the way i and everyone around me was raised was completely opposite, BUT it still needed to be called to attention and the only people who get mad are the ones who do it!
WTF, Bossip? “Uncle Tom” - what kind of internalized racist mess is this? Black people need to stop labeling more well-to-do folks with that term. Just because you have concern about the state of Black america and choose to voice that concern does not make you some sort of bootlicking white apologist.
JESUS.
True Dat Sparkle….I feel ya…Bill is just speaking the truth….They got kids out there pop lock and droping it but don’t know their ABC
Why would you call Bill Cosby an Uncle Tom? because he criticize us? Would you prefer instead he advocate pushing drugs because that seems the only acceptable message in our community
Bossip please change the title
I have learnt a lot more on how the world works by reading “The Shock Doctrine” by Naomi Klein; than any thing or observations that Mr Cosby will make about poor blacks and others. I do not know where he gets his information because most of the black people I happen to know are hard-working and decent, for I am wee aware that I can choose my friends, etc.
I totally ignore anyone (Mr Cosby) who speaks in general ancedotial terms without empiral evidence.
I am aware that while his views my apply to people, it does not apply to others, and the only reason his bullying ass is on TV is because he hates black people.
I agree redlink…
WTF Bossip??? Do you even know what the term ‘Uncle Tom’ means? Change the f**cking headline cuz it proves how stupid some of you people are if you keep it up. I saw the whole episode yesterday and Cosby said nothing “uncle tomish.” If you’re going to ask the question - if Cosby is an Uncle Tom, then give an example on why you think he may be one. And if you’re response to this is by saying that Cosby objects to parents who would rather spend $300 on a pair of shoes rather than save that money towards their child’s education, then you people who work at Bossip don’t know sh*t about anything. You people at Bossip throw around words but don’t even know what the hell they even mean.
Calling parents out for buying expensive shoes is not Uncle Tom-ish. This is about values and teaching children what really is important in life - and its not shoes. So Bossip step your game up and read some history books if you really want to know what being an Uncle Tom is all about. Or f**k, google the damn term. The ignorance that is on this website boggles the hell outta me…
Bill cosby is no uncle tom. He just speaks the truth which is what most people don’t want to here!
The truth hurts! He is right! He is not a so called “uncle tom” for his comments. I am so sick of see our youth who can’t read or write, but know all the latest words to some degrading song or wearing the latest shoe/purse/clothes.
Bill has a point, but u have to clean ur own back yard Billy.. stop burning bitches then you speak on the condition of Black people.
the title alone speaks to this issue. i see nothing wrong with what bill cosby said because for too many working class or working poor families, his observations are correct. while i understand why having a $100 pair of basketball shoes makes one feel nice, but if you’re still living in the projects or eatting chips for dinner, something has to change.
Although Bill has valid points, what has he done to correct the problem? I know he gives a lot of money to Morehouse and other colleges, but the problem starts way before a child gets to college. Go to the middle and high schools and start there. Unfortunately, most the parents that need to hear his comments probably don’t make it to the college level.
I agree with everyone… lol at the fact that the first ten comments are about why Bossip chose to title this thread “Is Bill Cosby an Uncle Tom.” If there were actually smart people running this website, then Bossip would’ve ran this topic by saying “Cosby was on Oprah yesterday discussing the problems in the black community. Discuss…” That sounds like a better title than the original one they gave…
I disagree. He should be talking about this shit.
The truth hurts. We absolutely need his voice about these matters. Or someone’s voice.
We are fuked up and that’s a fact. He may not have all the answers. But there is value in the questions and issues he raises. People want to bash him cuz the truth is ugly. If we dealt with stuff instead of pushing it under the rug, blaming it on whitey, etc. we might be…
Ima get off my soapbox.
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hahaha r u fucking serious?
niggas cant handle the truth, spend 300 bucks on sneakers and u cant even spell the world ’sneaker’
BOSSIP u jus said bill cosby should find ‘creative’ solutions to stop this….WHAT THE FUCK DO U THINK HE’S DOIN RIGHT NOW…thas y hes on the fucking show 2 begin with….black folks jus wanna stay stupid
I love this site and i check it each morning, but this was really uncalled for. This is how we’re in the state we’re in now. Anytime somebody says we should do better they’re an uncle tom. If we try to study, we’re acting white. If we’re in the corporate world, we’ve sold out. Like Dam come on now. smh.
uncle tom? bossip u are starting to sound like you are part of the problem…next u will be accussing cosby of “acting white”
I saw the program and I agree 100%.
Someone is going to have to point out the “Uncle Tom” act, because what he is saying is true.
We need to step up our game. When it comes down to it, Our children are being affected. Noone elses families are being destroyed at the Max as Ours.
Time to clean our dirty laundry.
BLACK PEOPLE (ME) DON’T BUY 500.00 DOLLAR SNEAKERS
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT BLACK FOLKS HAVE A LOT OF SHIT TO DEAL WITH…
WE HEAR IT EVERYDAY, WE LIVE IT EVERYDAY, WE SEE IT EVERYDAY!
BUT, WE DON’T NEED SOME NON - DISCRIPT BITCH LIKE BILL FUCKIN’ COSBY TO TELL US WHAT WE “NEED” TO DO!
FIRST HE NEED TO “CLEAN” HIS OWN HOUSE BEFORE TRYING TO GIVE UNWANTED ADVICE!
Bossip is somwhat correct in their definition of Cosby. It’s economics plain and simple, instead of attacking the cause, Cosby attacks the syptoms. A leading black Economics professor at either Princeton or Yale (not sure which one) made this valid point:
“Our so-called financial bad-behavior in the black community is just as apparent in the white community,but not as publicized. As a result of a lack of generational wealth,and with the gap getting wider all the time, we in the black community will always be playing catch-up. Whites still make more than us in comparable professions.”
I’m not trying to pass blame, financial education is a must, but the economic structure of this country where blacks are concerned needs to be exposed for the travesty that it is. For example, all the so-called black taxes that we pay for cars,credit cards home loans etc. Before I left banking, WAMU and other banks gave above prime mortgage rates to blacks with comparable credit to whites that got the prime rate. Let Cosby talk about that.
I agree with and reiterate what other posters have said; that being Bossip’s choice for the post title.
Whose side are you on, anyway?
Mr. Cosby is not a Uncle Tom he is trying to help our people out. OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!
Whoever posted this is lame. Did you even listen to the speech or the clip for Oprah where he does come up with some solutions for “ignorance” etc??
READ A BOOK READ A BOOK READ A MAHFUCKIN BOOK!
IS BILL COSBY AN UNCLE TOM?
SHAME ON BOSSIP FOR PROMOTING IGNORANCE.
GIVE BILL COSBY A BREAK HE IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH. WE AS BLACK PEOPLE ARE DOING A LOT OF THINGS WRONG AND THE SOONER WE REALIZE IT THE BETTER OFF WE WILL BE
BTW………
CHANGE THAT STUPID HEADLINE.
First of all for yall that dont know Bill Cosby had 2 daughters that were addicted to crack as teenagers. Was this a product of this parenting, NO. Im telling you you have crack head parents that have children to become excellent adults, then you have married parents mother and father with f’d up kids. So I think it is so closed minded of Bill Cosby to try to call people out like this. Them being In addition Mr Cosby has had multiple affairs on this wife Camille. Personally I have little respect for both Oprah and Bill Cosby because for the both of them they have a lot of money and power as blacks in the spotlight and they have not addressed the Jena 6, which to me is the most important issue in the world right now.
Bill Cosby is in no position to judge anyone. What was his then 3-year-old daughter doing shouting out: “Come on people!!” (according to him, this is where the book’s title comes from). Sounds like bad parenting to me!!
What was Cosby’s son doing with that 50-year-old Russian prostitute the night he was shot by her Russian boyfriend?
What was Cosby’s daughter doing on drugs?
Why is it that 15 plus women have come forward with sexual harrassment suits aimed at Cosby?
The man is a damned hypocrite. I’ve met PLENTY of trifling white folks in my lifetime, by the way. He’s trying to sell a damned book!! Nothing more.
OBVIOUSLY YOU MADE THAT COMMENT TO GET A REACTION OUT OF PEOPLE, THANKFULLY EVERY ONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE. BUT FOR SOME I GUESS IGNORANCE IS BLISS.
Did the staff of Bossip view this whole tape before that dubious comment? I don’t think they did.
@ VanGogh
You are exactly what Bill Cosby is talking about. Did you proof read your post before you posted it on the page? My God!! Bill Cosby is not an Uncle Tom. The people that are angry about what his saying are more likely guilty of the negatives that go on in the black community. My daughter is five years old and can write her name in print and in cursive and she can also read. The reason being is that my husband and I read to her every night and we control the TV in my house. She has no TV in her bedroom. The problem in our community is that we think it’s the schools responsibility to teach our children and when they are home we let the TV be their parent. Once we as a people realize that we can show our children that they can be anything they want to be and to stop always telling them that the white man got their boot on their neck our children can be very successful in life.
u know what bossip? i think i’m done with your blog… the ignorance of this thread’s title speaks volumes on what is WRONG with us as a people…bye
Bossip’s choice of title for this post is trully ignorant…
And let me add, Cosby is a HO! One of my former professors worked with him at the Electric Circus, for those of you who can remember that far back, it had something to do with Sesame Street.
Anyways, apparently Bill was a Dick to the staff and one day he invited a cutie back to his dressing room, and his mike was still on, (he was married by the way). As he proceeded to get blown, everyone on the set got an earfull…that’s what u get for being a dick, ur spot get’s BLOWN!!!
I really wouldn’t say Uncle Tom, however I will say, “STOP RUNNING YOUR MOUTH WITHOUT OFFERING AND SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS YOU SO SPEAK ON!”…. He hasn’t done so well with his own kids. Had to take paternity tests for other possible kids. Is well known for being fornicating.
When living in a glass house, don’t throw no stones.
Get your own family in order first!!!!
The craziest thing of all is that the very group of people he’s attacking are the first to come to his defense. This leads me to believe that we really are as F###ED up as he’s saying. White folks are perfect angels though - aren’t they???
How is he an Uncle Tom for telling people to take care of their children, make sure they learn to read and write, and to prepare them while they are young for a future in this increasingly technological world. But I guess you folks at Bossip with your low expectations of Black Folks would be offended if someone told you to stop acting like morons, fools and the laughingstocks of the world. I sent my three kids to Kumon for extra tutoring in math and I tried to get my friends to follow suit, but they looked at me like I was a fool for even suggesting it. Claim they were too poor to afford it and yet they bought their kids Rockawear clothes, designer sneakers and expensive rims for their cars that look better than mine and I work 50 to 60 hours a week to make sure that my children recieve a leg up educationally in the world. Every race in this world is gonna pass us by if we keep this up and continue to believe that stupidity is a virtue. Nobody who tells you something that is for your own good is a traitor, even if you don’t want to hear it.
Bill Cosby is not an Uncle Tom! He is speaking the truth. All these urban kids strive to be nowadays are rappers or Athletes…focused more on money than a good solid education.
I agree with Bill. Take care of your kids and keep them OUT OF JAIL. There are jails being built for our children. I am a mother of two and could never be offended by someone suggesting that parents be responsible for thier children.
Now I agree what’s going on in Jena is important, but M. Bell is sitting in jail right now because of PRIOR convictions. I’m all for being fair and just and do not agree that he should be charged as an adult or charged with attempted murder BUT the fact remains that he has a past. We need to teach our children that you will answerfor your actions and that because you are black you may not get a fair chance so how about this stay your behind OUT OF JAIL!!!!!
Bossip didn’t say he was an uncle tom, they asked a question so people can talk.
Can anyone read??? oh yeah, fuck Bill Cosby and middle class negroes
SAMUEL THIS MAN IS NOT OUR SAVIOUR.
IT IS ABUNDANTLY OBVIOUS PARENTING SKILLS IN THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE OUR LACKING.
THE ROAD TO REPAIR IS PAVED IN TRUTH.
SO KILL THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT HIS CHILDREN AND BECOME MORE POSITIVE YOUR SELF.
@ Shirley
Believe me - an EDUCATED black person would say that while that whore has some valid points, all of these “statistics” can be directly linked to WHITE racism. Further, what makes you think white folks aren’t out here doing the same thing? The only difference is, they control the media and can show themselves in a more favorable light. I can tell you’re a poor, ignorant person - simply based on your defense of this buffoon.
I agree with bill, why not invest for thr future. Unless in like my case you already have your kids school taken care of.
What do you expect from Bossip? A blog that praises brain dead rappers and glorify thug culture, so that now we make up more than half of the convicts in prisons in a country with over 300 million people. Bossip you are truly pathetic and filled with self-hate against Black people because you think we are not capable of suceeding.
Khari
“The craziest thing of all is that the very group of people he’s attacking are the first to come to his defense. This leads me to believe that we really are as F###ED up as he’s saying. White folks are perfect angels though - aren’t they???”
Don’t you understand this has nothing to do with white ppl. That’s the point. We’re talking about black issues. It has nothing to do with white people that we’re killing each other in the streets. It has nothing to do with white people that we’re not teaching our kids morals, the value of money, and so on. It’s not a white versus black thing. He’s talking about what we should be doing for ourselves. No one said anything about whites being angels. We keep focusing on what white ppl are doing to us that we lose sight of the things we’re doing to ourselves.
dear bossip staff!
your ignorance has been exposed
are u guys with the kkk?
M. Bell’s incarcerarion is from a previous infraction, however that judge knew that he had a prior infraction as well as being on probation before this case received media publicity, but because it had it seems as though the judge and pros. deliberated and said ha, ha we got them not. In addition two other members of the Jena 6 are now in custody. I not saying that parents shouldn’t be responsible for their children. You can teach your child, mold them, give them guidence to the best of your ability, then when they turn their backs they get into all kinds of sh*t. Im guilty of it as well as other people ont his post. Lets be real.
For starters … we have a history folks.
On top of that, A person of his statue should be doing more and talking less. Since he was out the ghetto before post-civil rights and the crack era, he’s wayyyy out the loop. Doesnt have a chance to relate. He can only stand on the other end and point the finger …. tsk tsk . I know the morons that support this nut want change… but when you point your finger there’s four more coming back atcha!
So get ya mind right!!
Just quit Bossip. When it comes to important news like the state of Black America, etc., you should quietly step aside and continue to focus on celebrities and the dumb s*&% they do. Black people need to get their priorities straight and stop making excuses for their current condition while doing very little to change it. No one is denying the existence of categorical or systematic racism and it’s stifling psychological effects. However, at some point, WE have to take responsibility for perpetuating some of the same ignorance within our communities. Bill Cosby has a point. Some of these dumb a** parents would rather buy their children expensive depreciable items like sneakers, before investing in a tutor or some aspect of their child’s education. Big up to Shirley, Jane Doe, Apple, Whatt, Tash and others for being brave enough to speak out! Stop the dumb s*&%!
I truly do not agree with generalizing. We are the only race on the planet to be generalized for EVERTHING!
BILL COSBY SAID TO MUCH TOO LATE. He wasn’t saying anything when his popularity was at its highest-didn’t want anything to cut into his money. he has a kid out of wedlock, started EBONICS, and dosent address key issues in the black community…
All I’m saying is BILLS DUM ASS GOT CAUGHT WITH THAT DUM LINE -JUST SAY NO,The honkys pitched us that bullshit and we swung at it. we should’ve been asking where, why and how did drug get to our community ? WHITE MAN\Gov. plegue our Hoods w/ drugs they want us to sell so they can lock us up- hell the don’t want no blacks on the workforce with them. - and they say blacks are lazy for not working but in reality most just dont like white folks -get a job and that who you will be pushing for whitey…
FUCK BOSSIP…THIS TITLE TOPIC IS REALLY SOME IGNORANT SHIT
BROTHAS AND SISTAS WE NEED TO MOVE ON
You know what. This is hilarious. The man has messed up in his life. Is that a reason to discredit what he was saying? The truth is the truth no matter where it is coming from. I mean the statistics point to the fact there is something wrong in our community. What he was saying about brown vs. b.o.e was correct. These people fought to give us the rights we have today and we disrespect them by not valuing their sacrifices and struggles. Let me ask you, what side of the argument do you think MLK or Malcolm X would be on in this debate?
@ diplomatic
It is clear to me that you do not know your history. I’m leaving now. I’ll just sit back and allow you all to kiss Cosby’s ass while he disregards everything positive we have accomplished as a people. Just bit back and continue to let your “good be evil spoken of.” It’s too bad that W-H-I-T-E dude killed his son though.
I gotta co-sign some but not all of what you said Van Gough. Bill made some good points, but if he, or one more black intellectual type, puts out one more book about Cosby’s damn speech, I’m gonna run out, and I’m gonna knock off a convenience store, then use the money to buy some $500 sneakers and some crack rocks.
Also to those people bringing up white people, this isn’t about them. We are fighting for our own lives. Come on. I mean if we can’t agree that we need to fix thi the we might as well give up now
BLACK FOLKS, this ain’t the way to go. I can’t stand how “middle class African Americans” and rich Black folk look down on ghetto America. why they feel like we are embarrassing them. Like this is all of our fault and we love being oppresses, ignorant, uneducated and discriminated against.
The thing is ghetto America is a reflection of American culture as a whole. Everything that comes out of the ghetto is a responsible to the whole system. We can’t believe that we are living in a bubble killing ourselves.
Why shouldn’t Black kids want $100 sneakers and iPods? The culture we live in says BUY BUY BUY, what makes you think poor little Black children aren’t going to want that, especially America says it’ll make you feel good, it make you somebody, it’ll make your life better. Oprah herself encourages that on her own show. Both Bill and Oprah are apart of the problem.
It isn’t only Black America that has to change, it’s AMERICA. We can’t sit back and say that all of these statistics are because of Black ignorance, who brings the drugs into our community? Who manufacturers the guns, who promote the lifestyle in media? HUHN?
So I agree that Blacks are the one who are going to have to do something, because America isn’t going to give it to us. Infact America needs us to be at the bottom of the social totem pole, America needs niggers to control the rest of the population. America likes niggas to be niggas so white folks can be scared and look towards the government and corporations to help. So that white America can distiinguish themselves from niggers with bigger cars, bigger houses, fancier clothes. BUY, BUY, BUY. And these people themselves are enslaved, financially, in debt, in depression, popping perscriptive pills and buying self help and diet books. America is fucked, and Black America is a reflection on that.
“Middle class Black America”, don’t be fooled. You are still a NIGGER in America. No matter who the fuck you think you are, how much money you have, how beautiful you are you will NEVER be white. We will NEVER own as much land and business, we will NEVER have as many millionaires, politics and people in power. We will NEVER all be rich and live happily ever after. There needs to be the depressed, repressed, oppressed. There needs to be the extremely poor to have the insanely rich. So don’t get it twisted. Every Black person who believe they are coming up in America simply because they have a few white friends, and they have a business in America and they are living the American dream is living a fantasy. All of you are just pawns, another way they help enslave the rest of Black Population.
So Black people, don’t look down at the ghetto, don’t be embarrassed in hurt, we are the real, we are the reality, we are the dirt that America sweeps under the rug. We have to realize that in order to overcome we need to over throw AMERICA, and American way of life, which is incredibly possible.
I wish to go on but I know I sound preachy. I can’t stand Oprah and Bill for this, it’s bullshit. It’s the same thing with America blaming hip hop for the wrongs in society, it ain’t us, it’s them and they need to see it and come to terms what is going on with humanity.
You know what, I’ll write more about it in my blog. Check me out if you like.
dat nigga Bill been angry at young blacks every since his son got killed like it was rap and ebonics that got his son killed on the side of the road
its definitely some thing wrong 80% of black men in jail. thats well over half and you tell me thats not a problem. get the heck out of there. bill cosby can go to hell.
YUP!!!!!!!!!!
@ Khari
“Our young girls, our daughters, our baby sisters become unwed mothers before they are hardly out of their teens. Our community has thousands of unmarried mothers [who] have no hope of ever getting a husband. And our community has tens of thousands of little babies who have no father to act as their provider or protector,”
That was a Malcolm X speech. but i guess his just a unlce Tom too uh
i can understand exactly what he is saying. i know several people that loves designer clothes for their kids but they are on section8. i understand that you want your kids to look nice but why try to be ghetto fabulous when you know you really can’t afford it. i have one child and i don’t bother to buy her designer clothes because i’m not trying to go broke keeping up with these ghetto fabulous mothers. she can look nice in clothes that don’t cost a $100 for a pair of pants. i don’t want her thinking when she gets older that she have to have designer clothes to keep up with everyone else, i’m not raising her to be materialistic.
“Um…Yeah, I’ll bet a million dollars you’re white your damned self. Only a white person would say this has nothing to do with white people. Oh, a white person, along with Cosby and fat-assed Oprah, that is.
To answer your question, bossip, NO Bill Cosby is not an uncle Tom. WTFF?? The man is making a valid point, and he’s taken the lead on this issue and callin’ parents and kids on their bullshit. I think he sincerely cares, if not him then who? Jesse Jackson? Al Sharpton, Oprah? Don’t get me wrong Oprah is wonderful in her own way, but she’s too caught up helping young ladies in South Africa get ahead. Not that that’s a bad thing, just make sure you take care of home first and please don’t use the excuse, “well all black american kids want are new Nikes and ipods” to justify things. There are plenty of kids out here wanting and waiting for the golden opportunites that Oprah or anyone else with power could provide. Cosby has a Ph.D in Education so I would think he knows what the hell he’s talkin’ about with regards to education being a top priority. I commend him for that and bringing this problem to the light, while being straightforward with the truth. Now let see how many follow his lead.
“Multi-millionaire Bill Cosby should use all that time he spends talking and find some creative solutions for “ignorance” and poverty.”
WTF? Umm… Talking about the issue is a start. You know what, I don’t even wanna get into this. Thank you Bossip, for proving to me that some of you people REALLY are a bunch of idiots. And what pisses me off the most is that stupid headline. Its just so disgraceful, tacky, and ignorant to put it up there like that. Calling Cosby an Uncle Tom for trying to get an important issue across - something that most black parents do on a daily basis in this country. Something so trivial and superficial as wasting $300 on a pair of shoes is something that does need to be talked about cuz it really does say where we place our priorities and it says what really is important to us.
Whats important is not a new pair of shoes or a new set of rims. If most black parents can’t afford health insurance or pay their rent on time or can’t buy their kids a new bookbag, but could afford a $300 pair of shoes for their kid, then maybe we do need to re-evalute the things that really are important in life.
And then yall have the nerve to say that all Cosby does is just “talk” about it? Education is the key idiots. To act as if Cosby has contributed nothing in trying to get this important message across and to make it seem if Cosby hasn’t done anything but “talk,” is disgraceful. Cosby has done more things for the black community than you could ever imagine. Again I advise you to google that shit if you wanna know some of the things that Cosby has done to try to enlighten the black community.
it all makes sense if you read what this Nobel prize winner says.
Read this:
http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
BILL ACTS LIKE HE A GENIUS HELL SPELLMAN / CLARK GAVE THAT NIGGA A DEGREE HE EARNED HIS MONEY LIKE ALL OTHER NIGGAS DO
SHOW YO TEETH NIGGA
CATCH THE BALL NIGGA
RUN NIGGA RUN
TELL A JOKE NIGGA, TAP DANCE NIGGA
TO SAY THE LEAST BILL COSBY IS A “ENTERTAINING NEGRO” WHO NEED TO STOP SMELLIN HIS OWN [PISS]
bill cosby man cause he cant get is Sh*t up so he can go have his 100th affair. as someone posted earlier this has not just started, and he wasn’t saying all of this in the 80’s and early 90’s when his show was hot. Crack was at his worst then. But I forgot he was doing jello pudding.
you know what.. fuck it…RIOT AGAINST DRUG DEALERS. TAKE THE NEIGHBORHOODS BACK. BE WILLING TO DIE TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. THEY DID. WHY CANT WE. DON’T BE PUNKS.
Okay Bill Cosby is an Uncle Tom, but Bill Clinton who has slept with god knows how many white women while married is the honorary first black president. Like I said about the Kendra and Supahead thing. Black peole leave the self hate behind. The
Khari here we go again blaiming the white man for everything. You know what I don’t care about the white man because the Western world is his playground and he will always get away with things that other people won’t. Bill has seen the world and he knows what it takes to succeed in the world. Education builds wealth and wealth builds power! if you continue to sit on your hands and whine then you will always be a poor, self=pitying black man to scared to venture out into this world to make something of yourself. Racism is a fact of life and will always be here, but success is the best revenge. Too many black people are obsess with how white people view them when they should be obsess about how they look at themselves; as victims unfortunately. And once again Khari you result to a juvenile name calling, emotional reaction because you don’t want to hear the truth, you want to hear excuses as to why we continue to fail. You want to look for the outside source rather than the inner reasons why so many of us fail. I work with Black youth everyday and by the time many of them are ten years old they have every excuse in the book to explain away why they can’t and won’t do things. I have had young black men tell me to my face that they won’t even try to compete because the white boy is smarter than they are anyway. You think Chinese boys think that way? East Indians? No, they tell their children that this world does not belong to one race and that if you apply yourself you will be successful in life. But if you whine and do nothing but blame racism for your reasons not to even enter the race then you might as well go home and condemn yourself and children to a lifetime of poverty, excuses and going in and out of jail like it’s a time share property you share with other underachieveing, big on excuses folks like yourself.
What the minority of you (thank god it’s a minority) suggest is that Bill’s not pointing out the excuses for why there are poor blacks. As if pointing out to whitey that the system is unfair will somehow be our answer. White people have washed their hands of us. They have for a while. We, and only we can change our destiny. SO WHO CARES ABOUT WHETHER THE WHITE SYSTEM IS AT FAULT FOR HOW THESE FOOLS GOT IGNORANT?!?
All we should be concerned with is how to get them and their ever-multiplying children “un-ignorant” because again, whitey ain’t going to help, and shouting at him to fix his past wrongs is an old model that stopped worked sometime in the late 70’s.
Bill is right all the institutional “reasons for” and the “cause of” why the black underclass is in the state it’s in are just excuses. We can’t wait for institutional remedies, we must take responsibility where we actually have control…OUR HOMES.
So if some hoodrats and people named “tashikqua” get their feelings hurt, GOOD. Shame is one of the best motivators.
And as for those crying “what about poor whites” and “but why isn’t he calling out whites,” get your head out of your ass. Who cares if white are screwing their sisters or going to harvard. It ain’t got shit to do with how we will ascend.
you guys are acting like some real fyking n
Hi-side, Bill actually earned degrees in education.
He sure didnt mention how he gave that woman herpes either…yes…..bill cosby gave a woman herpes and she is sueing him for it now……
No one likes to hear the truth when it is about them.
How could anyone suggest that the man who has given millions towards the healthcare and education of blacks an Uncle Tom. It’s amazing to me who blacks who haven’t done anything will suggest he’s betrayed blacks.
The book actually does give some solutions BTW.
Channelle.. how is that relavent
Why is this white woman drugging and then fondling rapist even getting the time of day - let alone a seat on Oprah??
Im not saying he doesn’t have very VERY legit points but I mean really.. Is there noone who doesn’t have this perverts history that can make the very VERY legit point???
IM TELLING U I LIVE IN DC, THE NATIONS CAPITOL. DC HAS THE MOST F’D UP SCHOOL SYSTEM IN THE WORLD. HOME OF THE NATION’S CAPITOL. KIDS DONT HAVE TEXTBOOK, THERE ARE BUCKETS CATCHING WATER FROM CEILINGS, NO HEAT, TELL BILL COSBY TO BRING HIS A$$ HERE AND TALK THAT. MIND YOU THIS IS THE NATIONS CAPITOL, AND THESE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN THIS WAS FOR OVER 25 YEARS. IN ADDITION THEY HAVE CUT MORE THAN 50 AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS. IT SEEMS THAT ALL OF THIS CHARITY AND SH*T NEVER MAKES IT TO THE MOST NEEDED CITIES.
I wonder. Does Bill want black people to be better human beings or like white people?
@ Shell
Bill Clinton is not making degrading black people, while absolving white folks of all blame, his life’s work - Bill Cosby is.
YEA BUT HOW DID HE GET HIS MONEY -COMEDIAN
AND STILL THEY GAVE HIM THE DEGREE (EARN LIKE HELL…)
for everybody whose saying well he cheated on his wife so he’s not qualify to make these points. Well Martin Luther King had affairs also, does that devalue HIS message? should we not celebrate his birthday anymore? forget the messenger and concentrate on the message. we have to start to be more accountable for our success. I don’t see how that is a negative thing to say
Even if people can afford to buy their children $500 shoes they should NOT.
Bill Cosby is right..Wake up Black America.
DAMN
@ Morpheus
I think Bill and Oprah wants us to all to turn white. Then, we’d get an hour on Oprah’s couch for having an out-of-wedlock baby.
STAN… actually my parents are african and I was raised in North Philadelphia. So I’ve seen these problems up front.
Now what exactly is the problem with his remarks? OH…thats right!! I forgot…too many of “our people” would rather blame someone else for problems than actually resolve the problems themselves. “Come on People!!” In the words of Charlie Murphy, “we’ve GOT to do better.”
Quit hatin on billy bill!!! He right and everybody who disagree are the same ones he talking about. I get tired of niggas tripping on paying child support, yet got enough money to get them dubs for the summer, with the candy paint and all that. I know dudes 30+ still living for the streets.
Blacks are the reason why we cant have a store built in the community and have it do good without worrying that shaydog and lil manman might rob the place. We need to stop shitting on ourselves bottom line.
As for bill cosby-dont hate the messenger, hate the message. He didn’t say one thing that anybody who got a job or a career don’t understand. Its all the broke/ignorant/trapped in the ghetto minded folk who got a problem.
Un…Yeah,
I live in Philly too (Mount Airy). Born to poor black parents who migrated from the south with few opportunities. My daughter will be graduating from college in May. So much for blaming poor blacks, huh!!! Cosby can kiss my ass.
thank you way2real
well there has to be something done regardless of how anybody feels about what Bill said b/c WE KNOW it’s truth in it.
A girl’s mom was killed where I live, stabbed to death in the middle of the street all b/c she was going to see why her daughter was fighting in the street over nothing, and u know who was responsible hot headed 13 yr olds bold enough to attack someone’s mother, for no reason, that girl has no mother anymore, I’d dare even answer the phone out of pocket on someone else’s parents let alone strike one?? crazy..
And who cares about his personal life? that’s not a worldwide community affecting issue, keep the focus on us not dying, and being so seperate as a people not his bedroom, that’s our problem, focusing on the wrong things which takes all your energy and attention from what needs to be really done, and plus I dont wanna know about all lat anyway.
He cheated on his wife 2 many times, and wasa never home 2 consider himself an authority on anything.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3GVTGNcGNeY
THERE IS NOT A DOGGONE THING WRONG WITH WHAT THIS MAN IS TRYING TO SAY………LISTEN PEOPLE….LISTEN AND LEARN!
jELLO PUDDING POP EATIN M/F…
TELL BILL TO HAVE A COKE AND A SMILE, AND…[FILL IN THE BLANKS]…
I gotta go to lunch yall…peace
stan.. if you live there how can you not see that what he is saying is relavent? Im mean do you drive down broad st?
HI Bossip! back in mix! (crickets..no one cares)
whatever yall!!
It’s a shame that so much of the young black community thinks that to be considered “authentically black” you can’t speak proper english and do well in school. Most young black people are completely obsessed with swagger.
Sparkle
The problem that “us” african americans are having with Bill Cosby is that……”WE CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!”
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Simple and true. There isn’t one person on here who can say that black folks are not lagging. People are complaining about how Bill said what he said like it changes the meaning. I can say “Fuck you” 10 different ways but the meaning is still the same. Bill is 100% correct.
As some of the other posts has stated THE TRUTH HRUTS! This man is so right! I watched him on Oprah last night and I agreed with everything he said. He is not a Uncle Tom, he is trying to motivate black folks!
Um…Yeah,
I make it a point to get to all parts of Philly. By the way, Mount Airy is an upper middle class neighborhood - or did Cosby brainwash you concerning that fact as well. Everyone around me has the same set of values - family and education. I’d much rather be around my own people, problems and all, than some bigoted whites. I work in Bryn Mawr, and I’ll tell you - when my car hits Lincoln Drive I breathe this huge sigh of relief. I’ll take “urban problems” over racism any day of the week!!
Question. If Bill wrote a book that was titled, “How White People and Their Racism are to Blame For Our Struggles,” how would that help the cause?
Some of you keep asking why he’s not blaming whitey. HOW DOES THAT HELP? If you acknowledge that whitey doesn’t give a shit about you, then where else can you look for a solution than inward?
I just don’t understand how acknowleding the crimes of white racism helps us advance? Someone explain that to me. Does a poor single mother in the projects get a check for $10,000 every time we call whitey out?
The only thing that can save that single mother in the projects is herself and her determination to want out. Our society is filled with proud accomplished blacks who made it cause they wanted out. Stanley O’Neal was poor in Alabama and came up through the 1960’s, yet he got an MBA from Harvard and now is CEO of Meriil Lynch. If HE could do that throught the 1960’s and 70’s, then saying it can’t be done now is insane.
Shame is, I bet none of you know who Stanley is….
I agree with Bill 100%. We spend so much time blaming others for our plight that we don’t put the effort into raising our kids to be responsible, intelligent, vital adults. And Bill didn’t say “EVERY POOR BLACK PERSON.” Of course he doesn’t mean everyone fits into those categories - he’s calling out the ones that do. We just can’t handle the truth about our community coming from another black person.
how is bill cosby going to talk about black people being bad parents? my brother attended morehouse w/ bill’s son and his son was a straight weed head, he even sold it on the side (yeah how ironic ur dad is a millionaire but ur sellin weed on campus) LMAO! ok think back to win bill’s son was murder on the side of the highway…hmm kind of fishy right? what do u think went wrong? A DRUG DEAL!
Bill’s daughter attendeded spellman and she was a drug addict!
Bill spent 100s of thousands to keep his love child underwraps only to find out that his lovechild wasnt even his daughter! hmm bill u cheated on ur wife? ur a great role model!
Bill wants to put down the Black community and tell us what we need to do why dont he fix his life and his home before he step up to be the black family spokesman?
Yes, i agree that we as blacks need to fix our problems, but dont agree with someone who acts like he has all the answers when he cant even get his own shit right.
Bill wants to blame someone? blame the system, yeah i know it gets old “oh its the white mans fault” no im not saying that but think about it! Instutional racism has taken over straight out 1960s straight in your face racism!
How can black parents raise their kids living in poor neighborhoods? they cant even get loans to get better houses b/c of discrimnation, what about the schools that our black kids are in? they are not up to par! what about the job market? dont even say affirmative action, because AA is more benefical to white women! how can we have great role models to look up to in the black community when they are just as dirty and backwards as they come!
Bill in the most respectful way i can even think to say this, but SHUT YOUR OLD ASS UP! mmm pudding!
Stan… This isn’t about racism. Fyk white people. I’m talking about us. Philadelphia is basically our city. Black politicians, Black mayor. I mean our students are beating up and nearly aralyzing teachers..I know you heard about that. Our homicide rate is through the roof. All I am sayingis thatthere is something fundamentaly wrong with the way things are. I don’t care whose fault it is. The fact is that it needs to be fixed.
AlabamaGirl,
He never pointed out any positive examples. You’re assuming he meant not “all of us”. I tend to think differently.
I have lost count of the number of my buddies who don’t do shit but blame other people for their problems. I’m 25 most of them the same age or a little older and been in and out of prison. I broke away from them got a degree in business, working hard now and saying my money and the first thing ouuta they mouth is that I sold out. They don’t have nothing, don’t want nothing (so they say but I don’t believe that shit cause they forever begging). And many of them mad because I got tired of wasting my life. So when people say it’s fear, i believe you have truly hit on something. Fear of success I guess. But some people you just can tell nothing and all the folks blaming racism like it cause it’s a handy excuse. I had racists teachers like you wouldn’t believe but that didn’t stop me did it. And it won’t stop no other man if he ain’t a scared little boy. Believe that!
Reformed GammaRay said;
And who cares about his personal life? that’s not a worldwide community affecting issue, keep the focus on us not dying, and being so seperate as a people not his bedroom, that’s our problem, focusing on the wrong things which takes all your energy and attention from what needs to be really done, and plus I dont wanna know about all lat anyway.
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Diversion tactics is all it is. Some people are mad b/c what he is saying applies to them and instead of doing better or at the least listening to the advice they talk about the mistakes he has made in the past. There are tons of black folks running around here loving Bill Clinton b/c he act black. How? By cheating on his wife, playing the sax, and smoking weed? And this is the man that was in control of our entire country. Oh he’s cool b/c he “acts like us” but when “one of us” trys to help “us” oh they are “out of touch.”
Sorry, typing too fast on my lunch breaks and made a lot of mistakes, but I’m sure most folks know what I meant even if the word was misspelled. Love my people be strong, compete and succeed!!!
btw, middle class blacks are very well represented in Mount Airy. If you’d rather live in the ‘hood around “your own kind,” than you are an idiot and will deserve it when some stray bullet takes you out, or when your child has to go to an inferior school.
I live in a good neighboorhood. It’s a mostly white neighboorhood, but it’s a good neighboorhood with no crime and great schools. The color of my neighbor’s skin is irrelevant. I know where black folks are when I need to be around them.
Oh, and I’ve yet to have a cross burnt on my lawn…
And how many women came forward and accused Bill Cosby of drugging, abusing, and giving them herpes?
His son was murdered by a racist boyfriend of a white prostitute he was meeting up with, and his daugther was a druggie when she was a student at Spellman.
Bill is looking for his last minutes of fame before he goes bye bye. Funny how he chose to go to Oprah!
Dumb rich black people make me laugh!
Stan - I actually saw the show. He made a point at the very beginning to make sure his past comments were understood - he did say specifically he was not talking about ALL poor minorities. Positive examples are great to see, but his focus is clearly on trying point out what’s broken. The show wasn’t meant to be a cheerleading session - we sometimes need the harsh words to get us to take action.
@Dushawn
First I want to congratulate you on your succeess. I know from experience it’s not easy. Second, I am on the contrary about the fear thing. People aren’t afraid to succeed the are afraid to fail. It’s much easier not to try at all than to try and fail but I submit to the people in my community and to those on Bossip as long as you keep trying you have not failed.
Um…Yeah
Philly is 50-50 (black and white). It’s problems are typical of any large city. Actually, the murder rate has increased by maybe 10 or 20 per year - much of it is hype. Do you see how beautiful center city is? Do you ever get out to Mount Airy - it’s beautiful out here. My daughter attended Central.
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