T-Pain vs. Kirk Franklin
Posted by Bossip Staff
T-Pain is feelin the heat from switching up a gospel song into a song about Patrón “Silver and Gold”:
Pain cut called “Silver and Gold” leaked to the Internet a few months back, with the Tallahassee, Florida, native singing about the effects of blending clear and colored Patrón tequila together for consumption. “You’ll be hanging, swanging, drinking two types of Patrón,” he sings. “I done mixed up silver and gold/ I done mixed up silver and gold/ I’mma tryin’ to get drunk before this party/ Somebody’s gonna have to carry me home/ I done drank the silver and gold.”
While Pain’s following ate it up, non-secular-music kingpin Kirk Franklin had to put a call into the young singer. Franklin debuted the original “Silver and Gold” on his 1993 Kirk Franklin and the Family album. The gospel version goes: “Silver and gold/ Silver and gold/ I’d rather have Jesus than silver and gold/ No fame or fortune/ Nor riches untold/ I’d rather have Jesus than silver and gold.”
“It was never supposed to be on my album,” Pain said Tuesday in the MTV News office, wearing a purple top hat and matching shirt. “The record, it got leaked, then me and Kirk Franklin had to talk. He was doing most of the talking. He was saying it wasn’t no disrespect. He was saying he knows how songs get leaked. He had it happen to him before. He said he wasn’t a saint, and it wasn’t like he never did nothing wrong. It’s not like [Kirk] said I did something wrong. He said if I was gonna go with it, just change the melody. ‘You can still say silver and gold.’ He’s got a lot of people saying stuff to him: ‘How could you let T-Pain destroy a gospel song like that? How could let him talk about alcohol?’ I wasn’t even doing it for a mixtape or nothing. I was literally drinking and made a song. I was bored in the studio. There was nothing else to do. I made it into an alcoholic anthem, which wasn’t good.”
SMH.
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I understand this new freedom of hip-hop, but damn!!
purple top-hat… smh
SMH…that’s all i can do
yeah i think that did borderline if not cross the line into being disrespectful
SECOND & THIRD
t-pain needs to sit his shuckin-and-jivin coon ass down somewhere…
kirk franklin steals rap…let rap steal him…..
SMH…he needs to come up with new material other than stripping and drinking…
I really haven’t heard the song, but I agree with kirk if the melody sounds or even makes you think of the gospel version then that’s out of line to me, And I don’t care how high or drunk i’ve gotten I would never be to geeked to play with the lord or anything tied to him!
he’s definitely on my top 5 ugly list
Ok, but did you guys read that he also had on a SKIRT with the top hat something isn’t right about that boy.
Tisk-Tisk t-pain
T-Pain better watch it!!
Ol’ Kirk’ll put the stomp, the whole stomp, nothing but the stomp on that ass!
…”It ain,t ova!” “It ain’t ova.”
Lol!!!!!
whoever has a problem with this obviously doesnt listen to music…ray charles started long before some damn t-pain.who by the way( has to love the lord) to be so damn elementary u know GOD had to have something to do with that ni**a makin it>>>
Please people kill the drama!!!
You act like he came out with the song on purpose. He said that the song got leaked and it wasn’t even going to be on the album. You act like he is the first person to ever do that to a gospel song. Go back and check your history this has been done in every kind of gender of music.
this upsets me…how pathetic!
“Go back and check your history this has been done in every kind of gender of music.”
^^^You mean genre of music…idiot..not gender
& 1trudiva:
lmaooooo!!!
you crazy for that one
C’mon, T…. too far, man. Too far.
I heard the song when it leaked and imo the melody is completely different the only thing that reminds of the gospel song the Kirk Franklin and the Family did is the title. Not to say that that makes it right just what I felt after hearing T-Pain’s hook. When it appeared online it quickly disappeared you could tell it was not his intentions for the song to get leaked.
Anyway just grab your voice box and mumble something else that will be a hit leave the church titles alone.
**the only thing that reminds you of the gospel song that Kirk Franklin***
(my bad)
“What profits a man to gain the whole wide world and then lose his soul?” Maybe this nigga neva had a soul to even speak of…
T-pain isn’t the first and he won’t be the last to twist a gospel song into something else. But on the flip side some of Kirk’s music has been rap/hip-hop/r&b influenced so its really not much he can say.
They don’t respect themselves, women, why would the gospel be any different>
@ mzsweetface
Very true about Kirk taking Hip Hop songs and making them Gospel.
How is it disrespectful? Everybody doesnt believe in God you know??
this is quickly turning minstrelish, I respect and admire Kirk Franklin……..T-Pain,ewwwwwwww, with all the ugly outfits…
Every time i see T-Pain,i can’t help but think The Day of The Geechie is here once again! It’s the Day of The New Coon! Shucking and jiving has now become “cool”because theres a couple of dollars to be made. Fucking Sad:-(
“How is it disrespectful? Everybody doesnt believe in God you know??”
It is a gospel song. Why would you take a gospel song and desecrate it?
Mad love for Kirk Franklin! He did the grown up thing and called Mr. Pain and addressed his concerns. He doesn’t have a Hell or a Heaven to place him in. So he took the adult road and explained to him that he could do what he wanted, but just change some things around. Now having said that, I would like to say this…Never judge a book by it’s cover. Never assume anything..Many thanks to Mr. Pain as well. He could have put Mr. Franklin on blast and disrepected him and posted an ugly blog or made a “STUPID COMMENT” to the media and dragged this on for weeks or months!
So we pray and hope all is well and things work out for the better!
(Mr. Pain does need to get a call and someone needs to address his attire)…anything is possible…lol
I agree with “D”…..check the history!!!!
Kirk Franklin needs to stop trippin with his gay ass.
DIVA COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!! I MISS YOU!!!!!!!!!
@ dayg715(Check me out!)
“t-pain needs to sit his shuckin-and-jivin coon ass down somewhere…”
AMEN–no pun intended lolllll
Well done Kirk! I absolutely loved that kirk Franklin and the Family album. But my jam was “Melody from heaven” and “Savior more than life to me”
i don’t think the highest power really cares one way or another
@1TruDiva: …”It ain’t ova!” “It ain’t ova.”
I am dead right about now!!! 8-D
i don’t think the highest power really cares one way or another
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cosign.
I dont think its offensive….big deal!! I cant stand most gospel music, anyway. And i dont care for T-pain either, but this is hardly worth being offended by. People borrow music all the time. Weird Al Yancovich made a whole career off of stuff like that! Big deal!
@ Davari
Every time i see T-Pain,i can’t help but think The Day of The Geechie is here once again! It’s the Day of The New Coon! Shucking and jiving has now become “cool”because theres a couple of dollars to be made. Fucking Sad:-(
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I agree.
His whole act is truly the personification of the characters Savion Glover and Tommy Davidson play in the Spike Lee movie “BAMBOOZLED”.
I have heard it all.
t-pain hides his mediocre voice in that talking thing, i hate to even look at him, always somewhere acting like a damn fool, i mean i’m all for having fun but sometimes it just becomes a bit much! Him and Wayne are the ugliest fools in the game right now, faces only thier mothers love
WE OFFEND SOME1 EVERYDAY…IM SURE JESUS AINT OFFENDED…HE PROBABLY UP IN HEAVEN OR WHEREVER U WANNA PLACE HIM LIKE “ALL I CAN DO IS SMFH”
>>>>>>>>>>>> THIS LITTLE NAPPY HEADED MOTHER FUCKA DONE FUCKED UP. I hate to say it… But don’t dare go tampering withthe Lords mucis.. Silver and Gold is a BEAUTIFUL heartfelt song.. and he is an contridiction for daring to use any likeness of this song.. WHAT A BUM.. nigga are you running outta material.. then RETIRED don’t remix God’s work.. FOOL
But I can se how it COULD HAPPEN.. but don’t record it.. hasn’t R Kelly taught you nifgga anything.. don’t record SHIT
WOW!!!
What comes around goes around - T Pain looks mad out of shape because he be drinkin that Patron & alcohol too much.
Kirk looks much more in shape.
**peeking back into thread**
Who here?
I’ma hang out for a few……
he shouldnt hav tried to change gospel music into something that talks about alcohol, kmt.
Why my gravie keep changin’ up ona sista???
Dis-is-sum-BULLshit!
Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I swear–if somebody don’t say somethin’ in here, I’ma run dis shit clear thru the roof!
Lol!!!
Ya’ll got me cyber talkin’ to myself and shit!
*mumble mumble*
I’m trynta figure out how Ashanti’s thread got over 1,000 hits!!!!!!
I didn’t know people liked her like that!
WHAT UP DIVA!!
HOW ARE YOU TODAY
This is the real DIVA right….
….show proof.
Did you see who moved into……..
……in spite of what happened there?
Hi!!!!!!!1
Why you got me in her talkin to myself?
Like I ain’t got no friends!Lol!!!!!!!!!
I was singing Happy Birthday to you the other day but you didn’t heardededded me!
Aw girl!
Hold on….
Ima change it back right now
How’s that?
You know I got jacked, right? But what in the hell did they do???????
I swear to God…….
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Lol!!!
I mean y’all don’t remember when Ray Charles did the same thang!!! Get over it!! He wasn’t being sacreligious, just creative.
It’s a damn shame….I gotta get my ID checked on BOSSIP.
I never thought I’d live to see the day.
SMH!!!!!!
Lol!!!
DIVA I ASKED YOU A RIDDLE TO LET ME KNOW IF IT WAS REALLY YOU
DO YOU KNOW WHO MOVED INTO……..
……..IN SPITE OF WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
Also, I still see the Baby’s full face.
lol too funny
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isn’t T-pain Muslism?
I’m just me–
I answered it for you. I changed my name BACK to that.
Lol!!!
Why I’ma havta go up to Jimmy John’s and cuss somebody out???????????????????????????
Put all these damn bean sprouts and lettuce on my shit.
What am I–a rabbit???
Lol!!!!!!!!!!!
CLEARLY KIRK IS LOOKIN’ FOR A PAYCHECK
2NDLY…KIRK IS IN NOOOO POSITION TO TALK ABOUT RAPPERS GOIN’ OFF OF GOSPEL SONGS WHEN KIRK MADE A CAREER OF CONVERTING GOSPEL INTO HIP-HOP
HE SHOULD’VE TEAMED UP WITH T-PAIN FOR A REMIX ‘CUZ THE LORD CREATED PATRON TOO
T-pain has a good heart. They solved the problem peacefully.
@ Diva
HAHA LOL….My fault DUH!
Let me put this purp down. I just don’t like that hyjacking shyt!
If I catch you drinking M-Daddy I will provoke your probation.
If I catch you drinking M-Daddy I will provoke your probation
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Would that be revoke dumbazz
Oh Lord!
Lol!!!
I’m set to snaek out and watch the DNC tonight!!!!
*sneak!
“T-pain hides his mediocre voice in that talking thing, i hate to even look at him, always somewhere acting like a damn fool, i mean i’m all for having fun but sometimes it just becomes a bit much!”
You know, I’m wondering if you people are judged by your families and friends based on what you do for a living. So what he sings from that “talking thing.” Guess what? Newsflash, people stand on the corner and do miming for a living. He sings through a voice enhancer. Nonetheless, he has more money than you. Ok, he’s acts like a fool. Nine times out of ten, you are watching him on tv. So why don’t you change the channel? I watched Flavor of Love and I love New York. But I did not judge neither of them for doing what they wanted to in order to get paid.
Now back to the issue at hand, who the hell is anyone to say what songs could be made over and ones that can not? I don’t give a damn what genre it is. This is a free country! Not to mention the fact, Genius’, that he was not the one who leaked the song out in the first place. How many of you have gotten behind the wheel intoxicated? How many of you had a one night stand with someone you didn’t know and woke up only to blame the alcohol? How many of you have children by multiple baby mommas and baby daddies? Yeah, uh huh. Any of you on welfare or WIC, or living in public housing? But you sitting around judging him for getting drunk and messing around in the studio. Man, fuck off and stop hatin’. You ain’t never gonne get nowhere by giving so much about what other people do, and then have the nerve to judge and say that he went to fucking far. Yeah, how far did your ass go? From what I can tell is that he is on top and we are on the bottom, and I am trying to be just like him. PAID!
Poll: Obama leads McCain nationally 47 percent to 41 percent (AP)
You know, I’m wondering if you people are judged by your families and friends based on what you do for a living. So what he sings from that “talking thing.” Guess what? Newsflash, people stand on the corner and do miming for a living. He sings through a voice enhancer. Nonetheless, he has more money than you. Ok, he’s acts like a fool. Nine times out of ten, you are watching him on tv. So why don’t you change the channel? I watched Flavor of Love and I love New York. But I did not judge neither of them for doing what they wanted to in order to get paid.
Amen to that!
crowd chanting “BARACK”
DIVA!!!! HOW DO I KEEP MISSING YOU????????
It couldnt have been too big of a deal anyway b/c i didn’t hear shit about it until bossip ol’ startin shit out of nothin-ass posted it! I’ve notice bossip will put any bullshit as story on here and yall start dissin and tearing people apart as if yall are better than most. I really cant stand some of the females who talk shit on a post bout a female knowing damn well behind that screen they doing shit with themselves, so i just read and not comment! BUT hey to each its own!
typo-they aint
LIB–
I’m here!!!!!!!!! I’m here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
**waving BOTH arms frantically**
I had to switch PC’s. The one on the floor is acting up.
Suga, IJM–
You still here?
*WEEPS MAJESTICALLY AT THE BEAUTIFUL SIGHT THAT IS DIVA-THEN REMEMBERS SHES TOO COOL FOR THAT SHIT ANDS STOP BEING DRAMATIC*
OH…HEY DIVA
@ Lady Camille–
I thought they did away with WIC?
***Drops down on the floor and weeps ’cause she’s NOT always cool and dignified**
Lol!!!!
YES I AM STILL HERE DIVA
WATCHING SME CRAZINESS ON FOX!
YOU GOT AN IMPOSTER? YOU’RE ON BEYONCE STATUS NOW…..ALL POPULAR AND SHIT…..
YOU GOT AN IMPOSTER? YOU’RE ON BEYONCE STATUS NOW…..ALL POPULAR AND SHIT
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
You can just call me….uh…..um…lemme think.
.
.
.
.
TruBey or,
BeyTru or,
Platbey or,
Vocalonce or,
BeyVocal!
Hey—I like that….BeyVocal!
I can act all french and shit and have ya’ll pronounce it–
Vey…Vocal…..laayvu!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like Vocalonce!!!
What about..
…Vocalyonce?
Lol!!!
Or what about Ja-Tru?
Oh, I got it………….
JaDiva. Pronounced like “Godiva” like the chocolates?
FLOORED BY JaDIVA….HOWS ABOUT…DIVONCE’
I’m just me–
Check it out!!!
You likey?
Lol!
Aaaaaw Shit!
Why you got me sounding like I’m Jay’s (Tyra show) brother/sister?
Lol!!!!!
Yes I like Vocalane and Divonce! LOL
I like Vocalonce!!!
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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man in club–”Yo, Yo! Hole up! Can I holla atchu?”
Me–”Are you talking to me?”
Man in club–”Whacho name is?”
Me–”My name is Vocalonce.”
Man in club–”Who…what….. nebmine!”
***man goes and hollas at another chick**
“Yo, Yo! Hole up! Can I holla atchu?”
LMAO! they can call you *vocal-z*…….
LMAO!!!!!!
Both of ya’ll is hella wrong for this shit!
You know you’d be RIGHT behind me talkin’ ’bout
“Go ‘head Voc, get yo groove on! He cute!”
LIB–
You might as well give up on them jelly beans.
At least til Easter!
lol!!!!
i cant give em up…..halloween is right around tha corner. do not sleep!
WHAT UP V….listen if we are talking about Easter Candy, can we pass me some Cadbury Mini-Eggs. Them shyts is the bomb.
Ya’ll can have all the jellybeans and Cadbury eggs you want.
Why, I used to gank my kids bags by tellin’ ‘em “I need to check your candy to make sure it’s OK” then steal all the good kind?
Why I used to turn my yardlight and porchlight off and kids would bang on my door anyway?
Lil Bastids!
Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m just me–
Why, when I used to go trick-or-treating in my younger days, I’d get mad when old people give me shit like those hard ass butterscotch candies.
I’m like “WTF?” “What’s up with the Milky Ways, Hershey’s, Snickers and shit?”
Lol!!!!!!!!!!
I see a few regulars in here this evening! It has been a minute since I have been on Bossip but I see the fighting never goes away.
ooooohhhhh….i want the cream eggs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My son tells me I’m going to be the old lady in the neighrborhood nobody likes.
I be peekin’ out the window and when them lil bastids take ONE STEP on my lawn I’m like “get the hellout my yard ya lil mufukkas!”
They be rollin’ their eyes and shit!
lol!!!!!!!
I eat Marshmallow Peeps by the box
diva….i still get first pick in my kids bags…they give me a nasty side eye when i say, im just gonna see if everything is safe!
diva does your house get toilet papered?????
How about–
There was this one old lady that used to live in our neighborhood. Every Halloween when we’d stop by her house for some candy she always want us to go to the store for her.
Talkin’ ’bout–
“I didn’t have no time to get some candy, or I just ran out.” “Gone to the store and pick me up some for you but while you’re at it, get me–
a box of Argo starch.
some cinnamin gum and a pack of bologna!
I’m like “DAMN!”
She get me sick!
@ Diva
Back in the f*cking day i used to get pennies for Halloween. Old folks used to give us pennies or apples. What the f*ck kind of mess is that?? Not even candied apples. Just regular apples.
@ LIB–
I know, right! They be giving me the side eyes and shit!
@ IJM–
Nerp! My ex is a Police Lt.
Lol!!!!
I never had it toilet papered but them lil bastids to ring my doorbell late and night and run off before I answer!!
@ DIVA and LIB
Nah, Babygirl does do the trick or treating thing at all. She gets her candy for parties at school. I don’t live in the greatest neighborhood.
Peace out! I forgot the life story of Ted Bundy is on Investigative Discovery.
ok…my cuzzins would take me trick or treating cuz i was the smallest….so they could get more candy….pimping out the 6y/o in the ducky suit….fuckers
@ IJM–
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
How ’bout when the church used to have the bobble for apples?
I used to tell my grandma–”I’m not stickin’ my head in that pail after all them other kids–slobbin and shit?”
She would beat me for sayin’ that!
Lol!!!
Why–if you cursed when you were little, you were considered the baddest of the bad?
I USED TO CURSE MY ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS OFF!
Lol!!!!
Not the regular words, either!
I be peekin’ out the window and when them lil bastids take ONE STEP on my lawn I’m like “get the hellout my yard ya lil mufukkas!”
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DEAD!!!
Also we used to Trick or Treat for UNICEF and folks used to be generous. I wish they were giving me the dollars and not the pennies.
ANYONE EVER TRICK OR TREAT AT THE LIQUOR STORE??? LMAOOO WE DID FOR REAL…THEY HAD THE CANDY WE REALLY WANTED.
My kids tricked me one time and I fell for it—
Once, it was raining and they still wanted to go so I puts them in the car and off we go! I didn’t realize I got juked until I saw myself pulling up to every house and they running back and forth from house to the car!
I was like–
I got PLAYED!!!!!!
How you gone “cab” trick-or-treat?
Lol!!
The Liquor store??????????
Oh hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!
If they didn’t give you candy, you could get a pickle!
I cursed my azz off as a youngster. Okay, I probably started cursing at 6 or 7. I don’t know who I was around that said it but it stuck. I slipped up at 9 and cursed in front of Momma saying someone was a jackazz. she let me get away from it and I have been likea sailor err since.I don’t think it is cute though.
@ DIVA
Oh, the lil bodega on the corner gave us those pickles out the Boar’s Head jar.
YEP!!!!!!!!
member the boiled eggs in the jar? Right next to the pig’s feet?
Member???
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
^^^^^ewwwwww :-&
Not Cab Trick or Treat!!! OMG!! I think we did that one time because it was so cold.
What was your favorite costume.
I was always a black cat, or a witch or some shit. One time was Raggedy Ann and my home girl was Raggedy Andy, they said we were a gay couple and that was the last time i dress for halloween. I was a cheerleader once as well.
TruDiva, you are a nut and I have to come up in here more often. I’m cracking up! Bey looks happy, though. It’s funny how her man and mother trying to get her to have babies. She still young. And judging by Beyonce’s figure, she gonna blow the hell up after baby number 2!
Uh..I ain’t ne’er see no pig’s feet at the bodega…but now i see how y’all give it up.
Diva do you shop at the Piggly Wiggly? Food Lion?
My favorite costume was when I was older. I went to a Halloween party as a playboy bunny. It was a contest and I had to win that shit!
A few years ago, I came to work as a mummy!!!!!
That was when I was still on first shift.
Girl–By 9am that morning, I was THROUGH!
My shit was dangling off me! I was sweating bullets!
Another time I cam to work as a nun.
I won the job’s contest that year!
food lion
We don’t have any Piggly Wiggly’s around here. We’ve got Food Lion and Harris Teeters. There used to be Kroger but they shut them down. Of course, you got WalMart but you gotta contend with the–you-know-who’s!
Lol!!!
Look ladies–
It’s been fun chatting with you two but for some reason–it’s just not like it used to be. Maybe I’ll check in in a few days but until then, feel free to visit my blogspot. I e-mailed Suga the site.
Have a good night and if you’re not home, get home safe!
I’m out!
*1TruDiva has left the building*
one year i went as a hooker, my aunt said it was unimaginative..i think she was jealous cuz i was etting all the treats
Good night. I am out for the night too!
nite diva
Dead at the hooker shit!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good way to leave for the night!
See ya ladies, Camille!
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Will the REAL 1TruDiva…Please stand up! Lol this reminds me of Nicolas Cage and John Travolta in Face Off
i thought ’silver and gold’ was older than kirk franklin?
having just heard the song on youtube, the song has bigger problems than stealing some parts of ’silver and gold’. what an ignorant song.