Wednesday, June 18th, 2008
Ice-T Makes a Good Point
Posted by Bossip Staff
Ice-T says that Soulja Boy is the murderer of Hip Hop:
“Fu*k Soulja Boy! Eat a dick! This ni*ga single handedly killed Hip Hop. That sh*t is such garbage man. We came all the way from Rakim, we came all the way from Das EFX, we came all the way from motherfu*kers flowing like Big Daddy Kane and Ice Cube, and you come with that Superman sh*t? That sh*t is garbage. Hurricane (Chris) take them fu*king beads out of your hair ni*ga! Man up. You ni*gas is making me feel real fu*king mad about this sh*t.”
That sounds like some comedy for real. SMH at Ice-T picking on those poor little kids. We know lil Soulja Boy is somewhere pissed…especially since he thinks he’s hotter than Kanye, Weezy, and Hova. Poor thang.
Topics: Hip-Hop Beef, Ice-T
u no
oh my….
As Much As I Hate To Say It I Agree With Ice T.
I See He’s Pimping Out His Wife As Usual.
he did have one of the best reality shows, it was almost like the show was straight outta Rich Pryors mind. the 2-g version of “the toy”
well at least his white woman got real backs, cause we know the
rest is all plastic….
Whoa Ice-T…as you dust your wife’s azz…
I agree with what he is saying about Soulja Boy’s bumpy face arrogant for no reason ass, but I really like the Hurricane Chris CD.
IF IT’S ONE TIME I AGREE WITH ICE T, THAT SOUTHERN MUSIC IS GARBAGE..ONLY THING I LIKE FROM THE SOUTH IS T.I. AND SHAWTY LO..OUTKAST THEY FELL OFF..ALL THE REST IS STRAIGHT GARBAGE.
…and he does have a valid point. Soulja Boy is terrible. Do I think he needs to go to Hip Hop death row for killing the music? Not necessarily, unless he’s taking all the other wack “rappers” with him…
I agree yet Ice T killed Law and Order….
speak the true Ice t that fugly souljah done fucked up Hip-hop.
I can’t believe I can agree with IceT! but then again he looks like a reject from Shaft and he talking..
“Hurricane (Chris) take them fu*king beads out of your hair ni*ga! Man up. You ni*gas is making me feel real fu*king mad about this sh*t.”
THIS COMING FROM A NIGGA THAT’S BEEN ROCKING A PONYTAIL FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS. SMH
“cash flow” -ace hood, pain, ross. dats my shit. “when I come see ya” soulja boy tough. he did it so big that even king James Labron was steppin to his tracks.
Soulja Boy mof definitely did as well as lil momma, mims, D4L, DJ UNK, and that other dance BS. I don’t think Hurricaine quite falls into that catagory
we living in the best times of music sorta.
what up smokey!!!
at least he is telling the truth, hes not lying… mofos is killing hip hop, why do yall think pac and biggie are so missed. and mind you this nigga here was running with nwa eazy e he was with all theREALL HIP HOP NARTIST WHEN THEY WERE STRUGGLING TO GET HIP HOP AND GANGSTA RAP OFF THE GROUND SO THIS PROBABLY DOES PISS HIM OFF
PLEASE HE IS THE SHIT ON LAW AND ORDER, THATS WHY THEY HAVE KEPT HIM AROUND SO LONG… WHO ELSE TO PLAY ON A #1 AWARD WINNING SHOW WITH SEVERAL EMMYS AND NOMINATIONS, NO ONE OTHER THAN FORMER “FUCK THE POLICE ATTITUDE , ICE TEE, THE ORIGINAL GANGSTA
i feel ice-t.
but soulja boy is not the reason for the decline of hip hop and neither is the south for all you down south haters. who is responsible are the executives that put out the music. Mr.Collipark and people like him are responsible for that garbage. but bubble gum rap has always had a place in hip hop its just now it is flooding the entire genre. just like dj greg street said hip hop and the dj is not dead. the executive is dead cuz they dont know whats hot. their just in it to make dough.
THATS NOY HIP HOP, THATS JUST PURE CROSSOVER RAP!! SO SOULDA MAN DID SUPERMAN AND THEN HERE COMES CHRIS TALKING ABOUT GET SILLY WITH, SO HE WANTS US TO GET SILLY WITH A SONG THAT ALREADY HAS A DANCE MOVE PUT OUT BY A CLOSE FREIND… WOW HIP HOP IS DEAD!!!!
Shayshay
well said, well said ….
i have to agree with him on that one…idk i wouldn’t say he murdered it…more like it was life support and he pulled the plug…
Ice-T needs to STHU! yeah the music is trash …but I guess he forgot they’re YOUNG 17/18 BOYS and the “music” they’re doing is what THEIR generation likes! they didn’t grow up listening to Rakim & Big Daddy Kane. It was more like Hot Boys & No Limit Soldiers!!!! If you don’t like it, don’t listen to it, change the dial ..shyt that’s what I do!!
AND THAT PLIERS HAVE TAKEN WOMEN BACK 40 YEARS WITH THIS DEGRADING SONG “BUST IT BABY”…I FIND THAT SONG SO DISRESPECTFUL..HE SEEMS TO HAVE A PROBLEM CALLING A BLACK WOMAN BY HER NAME FIRST SHE WAS SHAWTY NOW SHE’S A BUST IT BABY…WHERE THEY FIND THAT IGNORANT ASS MAN..
I DON’T PICK ON LITTLE KIDS THAT IS FUKKED UP. WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR CHILDREN AND HELP THEM TO BECOME BETTER INSTEAD OF PUTTING THEM DOWN. ALL THESE SO CALLED GREAT RAPPERS COULD GIVE THE BOY SOME TIPS BUT THEY CHOSSE TO GO TO THE MEDIA AND SHIT ON THESE KIDS. FIND SOME CLASS ICE TEA. SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO BUT PEOPLE ARE BUYING HIS SHIT, THE KIDS LOVE IT, IT’S THEIR MUSIC JUST LIKE WE HAD OURS GROWING UP. IF GROWN ASS PEOPLE WOULD SPEND MONEY AND SUPPORT THE MUSIC THEY LIKE WE WOULD HEAR MORE OF IT BUT Y’ALL CHOOSE TO BOOTLEG AND DOWNLOAD EVERYTHING AND THEN GET MAD WHEN KIDS HIT #1. YOU DON’T SEE MADONNA SHITING ON MILEY SIRIS. BLACK PEOPLE ARE SAD.
ICE IS DRESSED LIKE HIS FATHER THE DEVIL.IT IS TRULY TIME OUT FOR HIM AND BOTOX BARBIE.HE NEED TO PASS THE TORCH NOW!!!!!
Ice T couldnt act his way out of a traffic ticket…
WOW! Harsh!! but im glad somebody said it!!! THANK ICE!!!
I personally think Hurricane Chris n Soulja Boy are garbage, but they didn’t kill Hip Hop. Plus, Ice T is straight trippin’, calm down. They will make those songs and be irrrelevant in no time. They are not the only people that have sucked in Hip Hop, Luke n the 2 Live Crew, I think was a disgrace.
….and personally I never liked Ice-T’s music anyway. He might have ruined it for us all.
Legends always shine above the rest.
Plus, I bet his son loves both these dudes.
Also, tell your girl to stop looking like a ho.
hip hop was fucked up LONG before soulja boy. it started right about 1997-98 when the south started taking over.
i agree w/ Nat Turna AND Ice-T….Soulja Boy is horrendous and listening to “soulja girl” made my stomach turn.
I blame both the money grubbing record exec and Soulja Boy:
Soulja Boy for coming up w/ the bullshit he thinks is rap and Mr. Collipark for co-signing…
But you cant blame the south for the decline of hip hop. Blame the NEW rappers, the formula rappers from ALL regions of America.
Remember “Chicken Noodle Soup” and “Lip Gloss” came from right here in NYC…
@da Darkness,
If We Are Living In The Best Times Of Music, Then You Must Have Just Been Born. Music Is At The Weakest Point In My Memory. There Is A Lot Of Good Talent Out There That Doesn’t Get Air Play. Instead We Have To Listen To This Weak Garbage That Is Constantly Being Crammed Down Our Throats.
TRUTHFULLY, HIP HOP WAS ALREADY ON LIFE SUPPORT, IN CRITICAL CONDITION. IF SOULJA BOY HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE DEATH OF IT, HE JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE THE ONE TO PULL THE PLUG. NOW THE REST OF THEM ARE JUST BEATING A DEAD CORPSE.
I agree, soulja boy cant rap fo shit. Preach my brotha!
OHMIGOD, I actually agree with Ice T.
I can not tolerate listening to hip hop these days. I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s. I had Run DMC. Eric B & Rakim, LLCool J, Big Daddy Kane, Salt N Pepa, I even had a Fresh Prince album. Then NWA, Ice Cube, The Doc, Hammer (Don’t laugh, I loved his first album. The last hip hop cd’s I bought was TI’s I have all three of his cd’s. UMMM UMMM, That’s about it. Kanye is alright. TO ME, he is one of those artist that you just want to hear on the radio, He is not someone I actually want to go out and buy his album and play all the time. Like I did T.I. I am just not into it anymore, maybe I am just getting old.
THANK U ICE I
I HAVE TO SAY..I AGREE WITH U!
HIP HOP IS GARBAGE PRETTY MUCH RIGHT NOW
CAN I ADD SOME PEOPLE TO YOUR LIST?
FLORIDA
SHAWTY LO
THAT ONE CHICK THAT SINGS”GOOGLE ME” TRASH
ROCKO
YOUNG BERG*wack as hell*
IF ANYONE ELSE KNOW OF SOME WACK ARTIST….PLEASE LIST THEM!
STOP PIMPING OUT COCO..ICE..PLEASE! I AM TIRED OF SEEING HER FAKE @SS CHEEKS
WHAT IS THIS HIP HOP IS DEAD SHIT???????????? HIP HOP IS MORE POPULAR THAN ITS EVER BEEN BEFORE. THERE IS A COMMERCIAL FEATURING WILL SMITH’S “SUMMERTIME”. RAP IS EVERYWHERE IN EVERY FORM AND IF IT WAS DEAD HOW COULD YOU BLAME IT ON A 18 YEAR OLD WITH 1 ALBUM?????????
Damn i gotta agree with Ice-T on that.. But Nat Turna and Shayshay got it right to… Blame the bum ass niggas givin these bum ass artists the spotlight…. The game is backwards nowadays but oh well.. Thank god for mixtapes….
Happy Wednesday Peoples!!!!
SO TRUE..
BUT, THOSE SONGS ARE CATCHY.
BUT YEA.. HE SHOULDA MENTIONED “MY DOUGIE” AND “GET SILLY” AS WELL!!!
YES..AND LIL MAMA IS TRASH…SHE KILLS ME..ON THAT TV SHOW ON MTV..TELLING PEOPLE WHAT THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SEE???? how??? WHAT THE HELL HAVE SHE DONE? WHO IS SHE?
THE SAME GO FOR YO YO AND MC SERCH…WHO THE HELL AND WHAT THE HELL?
DUDE..HE ONLY HAD OUT 2 SONGS AND THE SAME WITH YO YO..OOH SHE HAD OUT 3! HOW CAN THEY TELL ANYONE HOW TO BE MS. RAP SUPREME?
PANAMA
THANK U
I HATE THAT DAMN SONG..GET SILLY
OOOHH
@Teedy
Rap is NOT more popular than its ever been…Its more COMMERIALIZED and FORMULAIC than ever before…there is major difference…
If it was popular, then you would have been hearing a biggie song in the commercial, not damn radio friendly Will Smith….
@ TEEDY
WE HAVE TO RESPECT YOPUR COMMENT, BUT SERIOUSLY I DONT SEE SOULDA LISTEENING TO SHIT ICE HAS TO SAY AND YOU KNOW!!! TAKE BOW WOW FOR INSTANCE ALL THE KNOWLEDGE JD HAS TRIED TO INPUT IN HIM AND HES STILL RECKLESS IN MAGS SAYIN JD WINT LET HIM DO HIM AND VENTURE OUT… HELL THIS STUFF YOU TALKING WOULD HAVE WORKED ABOUT 8-10 YRS AGO WHEN CHILDREN STILL MINDED AND LISTENED TO GROWN UPS… HELL NO ONE IS GOING TO WASTE THERE TIME ON THIS MESS
It is not just hip hop. R&B is sucking a lot lately too. What’s up with the non singing singers. How do you go from a Stephanie Mills to a Ashanti? What is really up with music today.
@ MS.SUGA WALLS..GOOD MORNING
WE AGREE! IF I WERE TO START A LIST, MAN IT WOULD BE OF THE PAGE. WITH THESE RINGTONE ARTISTS. AND THEY WONDER WHY THEIR CAREER WONT LAST OUTSIDE OF 2 YRS TOPS. DAMNED SHAME.
@{{ THE INFAMOUS}} Ms. Sugar Walls
Hey, Hey, Hey I like Yo Yo. I think she can rap. I think it was more of the politics and issues, etc. behind the scenes that didn’t work out.
PLEASE DON’T START HATING ON THE SOUTH Y’ALL SOUND LIKE CRYING LITTLE BITCHES JUST LIKE Y’ALL BOY 25 CENT WITH THAT WEEK SHIT. PLEASE IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHO KILLED HIP HOP CHECK OUT DIDDY AND HIS GLITTER OUTFITS AND SHYT IN THE 90′S. GUESS WHAT? HIS SUGARY SWEET ASS HAIL FROM GOOD OLE NYC BABY.
The South has great rappers, but some suck.
Good South Artists: no particular order
Rick Ross
8 Ball n MJG
T.I.
Ludacris
UGK (sold out everywhere b4 they jot with Jigga)
Outkast
….I know I’m missing folks but that’s all my brain allows right now
KOMPTON’S K
WHO IS HATING ON THE SOUTH?? I KNOW IT COULDN’T BE ANYONE BUT OREO ASS…FUCK HIM!
HEY EVERYBODY FROM THE LOU!!!!! HOW IS IT SHAKIN
AND HAPPY HUMP DAY!
Teedy,
I very much agree with you on the fact that he’s picking on some little teenage boys. On the other hand he is telling the truth honestly. Me personally I don’t have children, but I have a lil bro and sis and soulja boy is not what they need to be listening to because he’s a teenager, but his songer are vulgar and shows a lack of intelligence and I wouldn’t let my siblings get fed with that crap called music. I do miss older hip hop which is the only hip hop I listen to today where it was about rhyming not about about killing, selling drugs, and how many women or men you can get in.
I agree with him totally! Everybody says “oh he’s a kid” and “they are children”, but remember NAS was that age when he was spitting that real life, street knowledge on Illmatic.
THERE WAS A TIME WHEN YOUR TALENT DROVE YOU. YOUR ABILITY TO DELIVER CONSISTANTLY, FLAWLESSLY, THOUGHTFULLY, WITH EASE. WHETHER YOUR FLOW WAS CALM, WILD, ECT ECT. YOU HAD TO BE TIGHT. THATS WHERE OUR KRS-1, RAKIM, JAY-Z, NOTORIUS, TUPAC, NAS, MOS DEF, I COULD GO ON AND ON. THERE ARE SO MANY NOTE WORTHY ARTISTS THAT I COULD NAME. SO MANY. THATS JUST TO NAME A HANDFULL. NOW-A-DAYS ITS BASED ON WHO PRODUCED YOU. HOW TIGHT IS YOUR BEAT? CAN WE KNOCK THIS IN THE CLUB? IS YOUR “SONG” COMMERCIAL ENOUGH TO BE ACCEPTED BY ALL AUDIENCES? NEVER MIND IF YOU ARE TALENTED. DO YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THE RECORD COMPANY SOME MOOLAH? AND WHEN THE PEOPLE CAN NO LONGER ROCK DEY HIPS, THEN WAVE AND SIP, YOU ARE DISPOSABLE. A HIT IS SIMPLY THAT. A HIT. BUT TRUE TALENT, AND MUSIC THAT IS MEANINGFUL, LASTS FOREVER!!
OH AND CO-SIGN WITH sickofit
@ INFAMOUS
YOU KNOW MORE THAN ME…. I THOUGHT YO YO HAD ONE AND THE ONLY CUT I REMEMBER SEARCH HAVING IS GAS FACE… I DONT REMEMBER YO YO HAVING THREE HITS… OHHHH YOU ARE COUNTING THE CALABS SHE DID FOR ICE CUBE. SHE CANT HAVE CREDIT FOR THAT
@{{ THE INFAMOUS}} Ms. Sugar Walls
LOL! I think it was “P”….(Yea, I’m telling)
He so angry! Can someone please remind him that Soulja Boy is nothing but a child!!! A Child who make CHILDREN music…its for the kids. We know he is not a real rapper, but all that cursing and what not is not even needed. Get over it.
IT’S NOT LIKE YOU CAN’T FIND HARD CORE RAP MUSIC IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THAT. I THINK THIS CHANGE HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE MIND SET OF PEOPLE ESSPECIALLY BLACK PEOPLE NOW A DAYS. BACK IN THE 80′S I COULD COUNT ON 1 HAND THE PEOPLE I KNEW WHO HAD CARS AND OWN THEIR OWN HOME AND SHIT. PEOPLE WERE POOR AND ANGRY BUT NOW BLACK PEOPLE ARE GETTING MONEY AND EDUCATION AND WANT TO HAVE A GOOD TIME. I’M TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT KILLING A NIGGA OR SLAPING A HOE. THIS MUSIC IS LIGHT AND FUN AND THATS WHAT PEOPLE WANT. IF PEOPLE DIDN’T WANT THIS BELIEVE ME IT WOULD NOT BE OUT THERE. PLUS WHO’S FAULT IS IT THAT THESE KIDS HAVE NO RESPECT??? I WOULD SAY IT’S OUR FAULT BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE TIME TO RAISE THEM, TALK TO THEM, BE A MENTOR. ALL WE WANT TO DO IS DOWN THEM AND TELL THEM THEY AIN’T SHIT AND WILL NEVER BE SHIT. THATS WHY THEY DON’T LISTEN TO US. IF SOMEONE KEEPS TELLING ME SOME NEGITIVE SHIT I’M GONNA STOP LISTEN AND DO ME AND THAT IS WHATS HAPPENING WITH THIS GENERATION.
Although I do with Ice to a certain degree..but people this is coming from a BLACK Man that has his White Wife! bent over all the damn time while he’s playing with her AZZ! im just saying!
Sorry I meant do agree with!
Coming from an Albino with a ponytail perm and a ho-wife I would not care a bit about his opinion. Leave them chillen alone and let them do kiddy rap if they want.
i feel ice-t.
but soulja boy is not the reason for the decline of hip hop and neither is the south for all you down south haters. who is responsible are the executives that put out the music. Mr.Collipark and people like him are responsible for that garbage. but bubble gum rap has always had a place in hip hop its just now it is flooding the entire genre. just like dj greg street said hip hop and the dj is not dead. the executive is dead cuz they dont know whats hot. their just in it to make dough
^5
You’re right, the record companies see hip hop as a way to make money. Remember Soulja Boy started out as an internet star and a record company latched on to him instantly. They put out a terrible album to capitalize off the success of Soulja Boy song. It’s was all about fast cash and now that this way worked for Soulja Boy you’ll see all types of artists trying to duplicate his success. And the kids today fall for all that corny stuff.SMH.
@ Rika from the block: Drop those gems, girl….
It’s all fucked up now.. You want to know what else is killing hip hop? That division. Divided we fall. Who gave a fuck back in the Day where an artist was from?? If it was hot to me, it was hot.. Down south, west coast, east coast didnt matter. After Big and Pac died it seems like more emphasis is placed on where a rapper is from, not how booty the lyrics are….
Its amazing that T is offended at the ‘Superman’; back in the day before he became a ‘Cop Killa’, wasn’t he promotin’ PEE WEE HERMAN??? I know he didn’t make the song but that was his azz in the video dancin real purty….
@ TEEDY
WE HEAR YOU BUT THE POINT IS NO ONE IS GOING TO WASTE THEIR TIME AND THEY KNOW NO ONE IS GOING TO LISTEN… AND I HATE TO SAY IT BUT JUST TO PROVE MY POINT… HOW MANY CHILDREN MUSIC STARS ARE STILL WHATS UP OR EVEN LIVING A PRODUCTIVE LIFE… EXACTLY!!! SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE WANT TO BE IN DENIAL ITS NO ONES FAULT THAT CHILDREN ARE HARDHEADED AND DISRESPECTFUL EXCEPT THE PARENTS, ALL THIS SHIT STARTS AT HOME, SOULDA BOY IS SITTIN VACK READIN THIS SAYIN “FU*CK ALL YALL IM THE SHIT” WITH A PAIR OFTHEM FUGLY ASS GLASSES HES PROMOTING, WHAT A SHAME
Oh and Yo yo should not be gettin too much props.. Back when she dropped Lyte and Latifah were doin it.. Anyone remeber Bahamadia?? That chick could SPIT, she was just ugly as all hell and no one would market her…
Ice-T needs to quit hating on soulja boy!!!
what has he and his fake ass lookin’ wife done lately???
YOU CAN’T HOLD HIM RESONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING. HE WAS DOING HIS THING HAVING HIS FUN AND SOME PEOPLE CAME ALONG AND SAID YOU CAN MAKE A MILLION DOLLARS OFF THIS SONG IF WE THROW TOGETHER A FEW MORE AND MAKE AN ALBLUM. YOU GUYS TELL ME IF YOUR STRONG ENOUGH NOT TO TAKE THAT DEAL??? WITH THE PRICES OF GAS, I WOULD JUMP ON THAT SHIT LIKE A HARD DICK.
anonymous(Check me out!)
Its amazing that T is offended at the ‘Superman’; back in the day before he became a ‘Cop Killa’, wasn’t he promotin’ PEE WEE HERMAN??? I know he didn’t make the song but that was his azz in the video dancin real purty….
*DEAD*
lmao!
@ TEEDY
I UNDERSTAND YOU BACKING UP THE YOUTH. THATS COOL. BUT ALL HIP HOP IS NOT ALWAYS HARDCORE. THAT IS NOT EVERY ARTIST’S STYLE. YOU HAD SOME THAT MADE YOU FEEL THEIR ANGER. SOME MADE YOU FEEL THEIR HUSTLE/STRUGGLE. SOME MADE YOU THINK, OR BECOME CONSCIOUS OF THE THINGS GOING ON IN THE WORLD AROUND YOU. SOME MADE YOU WANT TO PARTY. THEN YOU HAD SOME (TUPAC MOST IMPORTANTLY) WHO HAD THE ABILITY TO DO A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THE ABOVE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT NOW (SORRY THAT SOULJA BOY HAD TO BE THE PINIATA IN THIS PARTICULAR PARTY) THESE ARTISTS HAVE NO TALENT. ITS NOT ABOUT HIS ABILITY TO BE HARDCORE. YEAH, HE GETS THE PARTY STARTED. FOR NOW. BUT WHAT WILL WE REMEMBER HIM FOR IN THE FUTURE? IF ANYTHING AT ALL? AND IT IS FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, THAT MAKE NEW ARTISTS FEEL AS THOUGH THEY CAN JUST COME INTO THE INDUSTRY WITH WHATEVER, AND IT WILL SELL. MONEY MONEY. NO ART. NO TECHNIQUE. NO TALENT.
OKAY….BUT ICE T
IS DIFFERENT THAN SOULJA BOY! SUPERMAN IS A BULLSH*T ASS SONG..
COP KILLER. HAD A MEANING!
LIKE NWA: F*CK THA POLICE DUHHH
maybe he hasnt checked the statistics.
the majority of Hip Hop fans these days are young kids.
So, Soulja Boy is in the right place at the right time.
Ice-T probably mad because he tried to do the “SOulja Boy” dance and failed…
CAGE
I REMEMBER HER
SHE WAS UGLY AS HELL, BUT I BET U THAT SHE COOKED HER ASS OFF..
SHE PROBABLY STOOD OVER THE POT SMOKING A BLUNT..BECAUSE HER LIPS WERE EXTRA BROWN! LOL
i dont have a problem with soulja boy and his music cuz it is the music of his generation just like kriss kross was the music of mine. but the only difference is that when kriss kross was out there were alot of other artist that shined lyrically. the entire hip hop scene was not flooded with kriss kross or artist like them. if the record execs put the same energy into promoting arists like talib,mos def, little brother,papoose,saigon,sha stimuli, joell ortiz,etc.etc. then i doubt anyone will say hip hop is dead. hip hop is about going against the grain and telling people the uncomfortable truth. now its all commerialize and gimmicky. hip hop now is taking away from the essence of the music i fell in love with as a kid
I have to DISAGREE, Soulja Boy didn’t kill Hip-Hop…
Soulja Boy is a little boy, what else do you expect for a 16 year old to rap about?
He’s just having fun…
It’s the “white” record executives that KILLED Hip-Hop plain & simple…
They’re the ones that control what we’re exposed to - to some extent (*you have to “keep your ear to the street” via mixtapes and underground radio shows to get exposed to artists who are independent and have sole control of their artistic expression and not what the record company wants and believes what people want to hear)
Once “white” record executives found out that 70% of Hip-Hop is bought by “white” kids - that f#cked the whole game up… Because as business men with NO RESPECT for Black artistic expression they acted just like that (*businessmen) and forced artists to compromise they’re artistry for the almighty dollar…
It’s the “white” executives that KILLED Hip-Hop not “Down South” Artists…
I’m not a fan of most of the “Down South” but that’s just because of MY particular taste in “lyrical content” and “beats”… Maybe if I was from down there I would like that stuff, just like how people in the suburbs like rock & roll…
I’m always down for my people when they’re doing something (legally) to improve their situation…
Ice T is right. Soulja boy and his minions are trash. Why are people mad at Ice T for speaking the truth? Soulja boy is NOT a child. His being a teenager should not excuse the trash rap that comes out of his mouth. Here’s proof:
R.A.W - realeased when Big Daddy Kane was 19
Live at the BBQ- realeased when Nas was 18
Eric B for President - realeased when Rakim was 18
Straight Outta Compton- realeased when Cube was 19
Real Love Remix (with that unforgettable Biggie verse) realeased when B.I.G was 19
Soulja boy, etc are just trash… age has nothing to do with it. They just lack skill and talent and need to get out the studio, go back to school and read a book.
NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CadillaLove,
What is your definition of children’s music? I’m not being offensive, but I really wanna know because Soulja boy is a child yes but have you listened to the lyrics he has provided for “children”
Teedy I feel you 100% on parents need to start doing their jobs. I guess Soulja boys parents just sit back and enjoy the money because they just let their son rap about whateva type of garbage.
My question is this with this new era of music where R&B is now becoming pop, If I’m not a fan of Beyonce, Ashanti, or the other commercialized artists, then it must mean I’m a hater? I’m a person that loves true music like Stephanie Mills, Miki Howard, Diane Reeves, Karyn White, the women who sang acapella for a record deal not sing on a fancy beat to see how many people would dance. Same goes for hip hop nowadays.
and it aint the rapper or the execs fault.
Blame the consumer. Execs go where the consumers go.
So if you dont like the music, stop buying the CDs plain and simple.
Ice T and the rest of you geezers need to stop listening to hip hop.
If you were young enough to remeber when Big Daddy Kane was skinny, then you too old to be listening to hip hop music now!!! lol
@sxyQblondie
I SEE YOUR POINT BUT THESE ARTIST THAT COME OUT AGAINST THESE KIDS DON’T HAVE THE BALLS TO COME OUT AND SPEAK AGAINST THE RECORD COMPANY BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO FUCC UP THEIR SHIT. JUST LIKE I SAID IF SOMEONE CAME TO YOU AND GAVE YOU THE CHANCE TO MAKE A MILLION IN A MONTH COULD YOU TURN IT DOWN FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR ART?? PLUS IT IS OBIVIOUS THAT SOLJA BOY THINKS QUITE HIGHLY OF HIMSELF AND HIS TALENT SO WHO ARE WE TO SAY ITS CRAP JUST BECAUSE IT IS NOT OUR TASTE. JUST DON’T LISTEN NO ONE IS HOLDING A GUN TO YOUR HEAD, TURN THE DIAL.
someone said it earlier but it is true. Simple catchy raps are what’s hot to todays youth. They didn’t grow-up with tapes and rewinding trying to catch what an artist said. Nowadays if you don’t have a catchy hook, and base filled beat its gonna be hard to get radio play.
Some of my favorite “Hip-Hop Quotables” that discuss what we’re talking about:
“Once the man got to her, he altered her native”
- Common Sense
“They know one day we’ll learn how to use it, that’s why they fear our jungle music”
- Jeru the Damaja
“Emcees nowadays forgettin’ that they black, they keep on spittin’ them lyrics that hold their people back”
- KRS One
If you think Soulja Boy killed Hip Hop, You sound old as hell! if u have any children around u like son,duaghter , neice , nephew, cousin you seen those kids happy 2 “Ule”. What about when everybody back in the 90’s was dancing 2 Pickin Booger’s by Biz Markie, did he kill Hip Hop? Let just move on. He (Soulja Boy) just made him some money. Telling a kid 2 suck ur dick is gay and child phonography. What CoCo aint doing it right?!!!!!
GOOD THING THERE IS DIFFERENT MUSIC OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY.PEOPLE LISTEN TO WHOEVER THEY LIKE. ICE T’S MUSIC WAS NOT LIKED BY EVERYBODY EITHER.
@LADY ARCHITECT, I MEANT TO MENTION THIS BEFORE BUT FORGOT-YOUR HAIRCUT LOOKS REALLY CUTE. I REMEMBER YOUR OTHER PICTURES WHEN YOUR HAIR WAS LONGER.
I’m sorry, but I agree with Ice. That Southern crap really ruined what hip hop used to be. They make up dumb assed songs based off of old nursery rhymes and come up with lyrics that a 5-year-old could scribble on paper. Then to come out the house looking like the hot ghetto messes that they are really pisses me off as a Black person. It’s almost as if slavery ended, but someone forgot to tell those idiots.
I just have to say that what Ice-T said is one of the funniest things I have read on the net all week!! Damn I’m still laughing about it!!
IT WAS FUNNY WASN’T IT??
Fuck Ice-T hating ass. If hip hop let one person kill it, then it was dead to begin with.
Ice-T is washed up, if Souljah Boy is so was so bad, then why dont your old dumb honkey loving ass put out a fucking record.
Souljah boy didnt kill hip hop, he fucking PIMPED IT. I’m not a huge fan, but I got to take my hat off and give it up for this young mans hustle.
FUCK ICE-T
@ teedy… NOW YOUR SAYIN SOMETHING, HE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE APPROACHED THE RECORD LABEL…. BUT IN ALL REALITY. IT DOESNT MATTER WHERE OR HOW YOU START BUT WE ALL NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT HIP HOP.. AND TEEDY IM SURE THERE WERE MANY OTHER PEOPLE HE WANTED TO CALL OUT BUT SOULDA BOY IN HIS STATEMENT WOULD HAVE MADE THE MOST IMPACT…. WE STEADY TALKIN ABOUT A KID, THIS LITTLE BOY IS DOING MORE GROWN UP SHIT THEN ME… SO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME HE NEEDED AN ADULT TO TELL HIM HE SHOULDNT BE OUT HERE “SUPERMANING HOES”… SORRY I DONT BUY THAT LIKE YOU SAID EVEN BEFORE ICE TEE SAID ANYTHING, HIS PARENTS SHOULD HAVE SAID TO THE LABEL OR HIS MANAGER, that this wouldnt be acceptable, AND IF THE SAW ALL THESE SO CALLED DOLLAR SIGNS THEN CHANGING A FEW WORDS FOR MORALITY WOULDNT HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE… NOT ONLY WILL I NOT LISTEN TO IT BUT I CANT.. IM ALLERGIC TO GARBAGE, AND NO HES NOT THE ONLY ONE.. THERES NOT ENOUGH TIME IN THE DAY TO NAME THEM ALL AND YOU KNOW IT
@ TEEDY…….my point exactly. Very well said!!
@Rain Maker
YOU CAN’T DOWN A WHOLE REGION BECAUSE OF A FEW SONGS MOST OF THE HBC’S HAIL FROM THE SOUTH, SO WE CAN’T BE THAT DUMB. YOU SOUND LIKE THE IGNORANT ONE. DID YOU EVEN GO TO SCHOOL?
LMAOOOO!!! Go ahead Ice-T! Tell ‘em like it is! I don’t know if they single handedly did it, but they certainly played a part! For sure! I don’t think people like Three 6 Mafia helped too much either!
Jahpson - Let the truth be told. My parents were saying the same thing about Biggie and Pac. Ladies and Gentlement, you are getting old. Accept it and move one. Like Jahpson, you are probably to old to be listening that ____ any ways. If you are endorsing what Ice is saying, you, like him, need to grow the _____ up! Get a life people. Go pick up a book or something. Geeesh!
Ice T is right. Soulja boy and his minions are trash. Why are people mad at Ice T for speaking the truth? Soulja boy is NOT a child. His being a teenager should not excuse the trash rap that comes out of his mouth. Here’s proof:
R.A.W - realeased when Big Daddy Kane was 19
Live at the BBQ- realeased when Nas was 18
Eric B for President - realeased when Rakim was 18
Straight Outta Compton- realeased when Cube was 19
Real Love Remix (with that unforgettable Biggie verse) realeased when B.I.G was 19
Soulja boy, etc are just trash… age has nothing to do with it. They just lack skill and talent and need to get out the studio, go back to school and read a book.
@ Ms Brilly: THANK YOU. (And i rarely re-post someone’s shit but that was on point)
@ K.I.R. - Thank you also…
edit* “Like Jahpson said,”
@TEEDY & CORPERATE
NOW I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. OUR ART HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A “MONEY MAKING” FRANCHISE. AND IT IS BECAUSE OF THEM. IT IS A BAD CYCLE THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED, AND YES SOMETHING MUST BE DONE ABOUT THAT.
Thanks cateyes.
Well said corporate. When I start having children I doubt I will expose them to the trash out today or maybe what’s to come.
ALSO COSIGN WITH Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators
Hehehehe, ponytail for 40 years LOL
@SHAY SHAY…PLEASE LETS NOT BRING MORALS INTO THIS DEBATE BECAUSE WHEN WE ARE DONE THERE WILL ONLY BE ABOUT FIVE RAPPERS LEFT ON THE LIST WHO ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING POSITIVE TO SAY, AND YOU KNOW IT. WHAT SOLJA BOY IS SAYING IN THAT SONG SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING A SILLY KID WOULD SAY OR TRY TO DO. WHAT EXCUSE WOULD YOU GIVE THESE GROW MEN AND WOMEN WHO CAN’T PUT A VERSE TOGETHER WITHOUT A BITCH OR A HOE??????
@ CAGE…
OH YOU KICKIN KNOWLEDGE TODAY… GUESS I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT WHY WE SITTIN HERE MAKIN EXCUSES FOR SOULDA, AND JUST FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW… ITS NOT JUST THE SOUTH PUTTIN OUT WHACK ASS MISUC, LOOK AT PUFFS LAST ALBUM… AND HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER… NEED I SAY MORE… BUT AGAIN CAGE VERY EXCELLENT POINT