Monday, June 9th, 2008

Spike To Clint: Fall Back Geezer

Posted by Bossip Staff

Last week Clint Eastwood had what some would call a “racist moment” when he said Spike Lee should “shut his face.” Here’s Lee’s response:

‘First of all, the man is not my father and we’re not on a plantation. The thing about it though, I didn’t personally attack him. And a comment like “a guy like that should shut his face” - come on Clint, come on. He sounds like an angry old man right there. Even though he’s trying to have a Dirty Harry flashback,’ he said. ‘I’m going to take the Obama high road and end it right here.’”

LMAO at Spike giving that corpse-like buster the old brush off in true Obama-esque form and fashion. A classy move, for real.

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  1. gravatar biracial bombshell
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    1st

  2. gravatar Ange
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    GOLD IS GRAND!!

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    top 5 niggas and niggettes

  4. gravatar Ange
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    dang SILVER WILL SUFFICE!

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    Top 5, tambien !!!

  6. gravatar Ange
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    I give up

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    lol @ taking the Obama high road!

  8. gravatar biracial bombshell
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    If that’s not being racist then idk what is

  9. gravatar WrongY'all
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    I think Spike would have come out better by providing historical information to support the fact that Black Soldiers did take part in allowing Americans to be able to plant that flag. Hence providing an educated reponse to the ignorant comment that Eastwood made about Black soldiers not being relevant in the movie. Taking the high road is only effective when it provides some education along with it.

  10. gravatar shar
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    How about a movie-off to settle it-haha. Or a boxing match Marquess of Queensbury rules.

  11. gravatar I'm Just Me
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    LMAOOOO!!! Funny for real. Clint should have know better. He comes from Brooklyn better know as Crooklyn!! Come on Clint. I agree. Who are you talking to like that??

  12. gravatar mrslaadee
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    LOL LOL LOL…We all knew Spike wasn’t going to let that redneck talk shit and get away with it. I’m glad Spike has never crossed over to kissing the white man’s ass like Diddy and 50 have.

  13. gravatar That Girl Linda
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    Why do people put first and not say anything about the post.. And who cares if your in the top 5 esp on a blog..

  14. gravatar nlm
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    Jesus. Clint is a nutter. SMH…

  15. gravatar Jack Tripper
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    Yeah somtimes you gotta take the high road with irrelevant fools and comments!

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    @ SHAR. Lol The Queensberry rules. I watched that movie the other day. Monroe ! Monroe ! Monroe !

  17. gravatar puhleez
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    how is telling someone to shut their face racist? i swear bossip will not stop until they turn all blacks against whites and vice versa

  18. gravatar THE ORIGINAL PIMP DADDY
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    yo spike better chill before dirty harry bust a cap in his ass.

  19. gravatar shar
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    Southern U thank you - I will gladly accept your laughter. However, as you Americans play a game called “Yo Mama” I believe, how about these 2 in a boxing ring (like “Million Dollar Baby”), Yo Mama-ing pay-per-view? It was the British Victorians who cleaned up Boxing by giving us The Queensbury Rules - so we will want a good clean Yo-Mama fight - should we ask Bossip.com to come up with the Yo-Mama Rules?

  20. gravatar Mdy
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    He’s just mad cause Clint was right, big cornball. I’m so sick of black people thinking racism is going on with every little thing. Grow the fuck up

  21. gravatar shar
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    Terribly sorry, continuation of post: “Yo Movie-in” in “Yo

  22. gravatar shar
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    oops pressed the wrong key

    Terribly sorry, continuation of post “Yo Movie-ing in the style of “Yo Mama” Bossip.com rules.

    Toodle pip chaps.

  23. gravatar biracial bombshell
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    Linda-

    If you haven’t noticed….on every post ppl say 1st…and a couple comments I left mine…so there’s your answer. If you don’t get it, then get out

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    @MDY
    Tell your story to Lt. Cmdr. McPhatter, a Black man amongst the approximately 900 soldiers that were present at the battle of Iwo Jima. They were there mainly in a supply role but the fighting became so fierce, they spent their time firing their rifles right next to their Caucasian counterparts. McPhatter also said he was there during the flag raising (he helped construct the pole) but the exclusion of Blacks in the movie did not surprise him since during the war the cameramen filming the newsreel (propoganda films used to build up war support back home) would turn there cameras away from black soldiers so nobody would see them in the U.S. I mean damn, it took until the 90’s for ANY of the millions of Blacks that participated in WWII to get any award or official recognition. No, that’s not racist. (Spike Lee should do his own movie about LT. CDR. McPhatter)

  25. gravatar COME ON
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    I just don’t get it, what does “a guy like that” Mean? can someone please answer that?

  26. gravatar shar
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    where did my post disappear to?

  27. gravatar shar
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    Bossip have you 5-finger discounted them? Why?

  28. gravatar shar
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    Yo-Movie Off
    Clint Eastwood vs Spike Lee
    Vegas
    Pay-Per-View

  29. gravatar shar
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    CLINT: Yo Movie, ‘She Gotta Have it’ was so black and white…

  30. gravatar Lauren
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    @ Illuminate Truth…

    Thank you for the insight and I agree with the fact that Spike Lee should make his own movie…..:)

  31. gravatar Aunt Viv
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    LOL@Bossip for “corpse-like buster”

  32. gravatar dubya
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    Translation: A guy like that = a guy who stirs up controversy and screams racism when he gets called out on it.

  33. gravatar d
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    spike needs to stfu

  34. gravatar ray
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    Spikes’ the man!

    think

  35. gravatar LoveJones
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    I totally agree with Spike Lee on this one. Mr. Eastwood got his feathers ruffled and didnt understand what Spike was trying to say. Spike wasnt trying to revision history. If there was no black soldiers who raised the flag then so be it. But like Illuminate Truth says if a black soldier helped construct the flagpole, how can that not be in the film. What Spike called Clint Eastwood on was a lack of real historical research and that is what you do if you are going to do a historical film. And you mean to tell me there was 900 soldiers there, and you cant find not one afro-american man to be an extra as a soldier?

  36. gravatar glok9n
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    Spike Lee is a negroe that lost hiz edge,he was’nt putting Blk ppl in hiz lastest movies either,stop asking Clint to cast Blk folks Niggr look in the mirror…..ask your self that same question….I still got beef with this lil Midget ass Niggr for fukking up the a Knicks playoff chances yrs ago!!!

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    The sad part is that not having Blacks in the movie is a misrepresentation of facts but does anyone realize that there are no Black shows on ANY of the major TV networks (ABC,CBS,NBC and FOX) Please don’t mention UPN (U People’s Netork)which is owned by FOX. I think we already have an idea of their agenda and if all they are going to give me is Flava Flav then well………

  38. gravatar Coop
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    @biracial bombshell

    Not to defend Clint but sometime Spike is a little to b*tchy.

  39. gravatar shar
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    Hey Bossip, let me post my amusing sketch on the ClintvsSpike Yo-Movie please.

  40. gravatar shar
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    I just wanna get my comedy on and get a job as a writer…please

  41. gravatar shar
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    coop @ biracial bombshell

    Does that mean Clint is a little too blotchy - liver spots?

  42. gravatar bria
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    Telling someone too shut up is not racisist. Let’s not be so quick too throw that word around. He didn’t like what he said so he told he too shut-up. There is nothing racisist about that. In the movie that Spike Lee is talking about that was a specific event and there were no black men at that particular event. NO one is saying black men were not in WWII. But, here is a thought for Mr. Lee, he complained about Oliver North about his war movies and now Clint, do some research and you make a movie about black men in those wars. I don’t think someone white will get the same story as Spike would. If it will be anything like his Katrina story it will be a masterpiece.

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    @glok9n
    Yeah, I’ll never forgive Spike for firing up Reggie Miller (Knick Killer) either. Oak and Mase should of taken care of that. His movies have taken a mainstream feel lately but I kind of knew that was coming. He should do a remake of “The Spook Who Sat by the Door”, a book written by Sam Greenlee in the 60’s and made into a movie in 1973 by Ivan Dixon. The book and movie are hard to find now since the powers that be in Hollyweird tried to blackball it. Didn’t work….I have copies of both. If Spike would do something like that, he would redeem himself. Here’s a quote from the author:
    “If we’re gonna be outsiders, man, take advantage of being outside. If you wanna be a rich ho, then go to Hollywood. If you wanna say something true about Black people, then do what we did. Raise the money from the Black community and shoot what you want”.
    - Sam Greenlee (on “One on One”)

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    @glok9n

    Yeah, I never forgave Spike for firing up Reggie Miller (Knick Killer) that game. Oak and Mase shoulda handled that. Ironic thing is, ever since the Knicks started losing, he doesn’t even show up at the Garden. He’s more likely to be seen in L.A. at a Laker’s game. I guess his basketball allegiance went the same place his movies went…to Hollywood.

  45. gravatar Eleanor Rigby
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    @bria…I think Spike is doing a movie called “Mircale at St. Anna” about the black Buffalo soldiers in WWII. That’s what started all the beef between him and Clint. A reporter at the Cannes Film Festival asked Spike why was he directing a war movie, and that’s when Spike gave his opinion on the lack of black soldiers represented in Hollywood movies, i.e., Flags of Our Fathers, etc.

  46. gravatar THE ORIGINAL PIMP DADDY
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    @ELEANOR YOU STUPID BITCH WHAT THE FUCK YOU MEAN BUFFALO SOLDIERS IN WW2 DO YOUR RESEARCH DUMB BITCH.

  47. gravatar Lovely One
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    IlluminateTruth(Check me out!)

    The sad part is that not having Blacks in the movie is a misrepresentation of facts but does anyone realize that there are no Black shows on ANY of the major TV networks (ABC,CBS,NBC and FOX) Please don’t mention UPN (U People’s Netork)which is owned by FOX. I think we already have an idea of their agenda and if all they are going to give me is Flava Flav then well………
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    I have agreed with EVERYTHING you said. In fact, “Girlfriends” showed too many positive black females at one time so the CW had to cut the show without a finale. “The Game” (which is entertaining but not on the same level as GF-with Toni Childs) is still on but beginning next season, the show will air on Fridays at 8pm. Now no one can tell me that CW is not trying to get rid of the color on thier station!

    I say Viacom/BET need to step up and buy real sitcoms and handle the reruns later

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    @ Eleanor Rigby

    I was not aware of Spike actually doing a film on the Buffalo Soldiers. Good stuff on the origin of Spike’s statements….puts everything in perspective. Hopefully, he can find enough distribution for the movie and then we have to support it (bootlegs don’t count).

  49. gravatar Crackalicious
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    WHAT THE F*CK! PLANTATION!!!??????????????
    ARE U GONNA PULL THAT ONE-LINER, SPIKE, EVERYTIME A WHITE MAN ACTUALLY GIVES YOU A RESPONSE THAT PROVES HOW SILLY U ARE IN THE FIRST PLACE!?

    CLINT TOLD HIM TO SHUT HIS FACE BEACUSE HE WAS ACCUSING CLINT OF BEING A RACIST MO’FO, IT’S A SERIOUS ACCUSATION, YOU CANT THROW THAT AROUND WITHOUT A VALID REASON SPIKE!!

  50. gravatar Lovely One
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    @bria…I think Spike is doing a movie called “Mircale at St. Anna” about the black Buffalo soldiers in WWII. That’s what started all the beef between him and Clint. A reporter at the Cannes Film Festival asked Spike why was he directing a war movie, and that’s when Spike gave his opinion on the lack of black soldiers represented in Hollywood movies, i.e., Flags of Our Fathers, etc.
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    Thanks for giving that info. The media makes it seem like Spike just starting talking out of his as$ to start mess. From your explanation, that obviously was not the case and therefore Spikes statement does not need that much backlashing from the public.

  51. gravatar Subterfuge
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    Who the fuck can blame Spike for not going to see the Knicks? They have been HORRID for the last 4 years at least. There’s only so many time you can watch a train wreck. Thanks Zeke…
    Oh yeah, Fuck Eastwood :>)

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    @Lovely One

    Don’t hold your breath for BET/Viacom to do ANY thing remotely positive for Black TV. Viacom (same owners of MTV) got rid of every piece of positive programming (Travis Smiley, BET News) from BET the day that idiot Bob Johnson sold out to mainstream media. I mean, it never occured to him that when someone offers you almost 3X the revenue that something is supposedly worth that maybe there is value that you are not seeing. Or maybe he did know it but he just sold his soul to the highest bidder. Sad.

  53. gravatar I'm Just Me
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    @ Illuminate Truth..

    …wait is UPN still around??? I thought that merged with WB and became CW or something. Up here we no longer have UPN and all the shows that come with it (One on One, etc.)

  54. gravatar WrongY'all
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    Bob Johnson was pressured by the Illumaniti to sel BET to VIACOM.
    Black people need to wake up to the new world order and realize what is really going on.

    Instead of worrying about some damn basketball playoff and a player who likes to make butts bleed on the regular!

  55. gravatar glok9n
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    Illuminate Truth! You have out shined you brilliance! Very correct! He needs to also do a movie on Black Jesus > Thatz my opinion! The Author you named sounds well interesting & quoted!

  56. gravatar I'm Just Me
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    @ Shar

    coop @ biracial bombshell

    Does that mean Clint is a little too blotchy - liver spots?

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  57. gravatar Diggy
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    So now, “a guy like that should shut his face” is racist?? Did I miss the memo??

  58. gravatar glok9n
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    OH! OH! I feel a sudden burst of outrage! FUK BOB JOHNSON, FUK THE ILLUMINATI THEY EVERYWHERE! AND FUK B.E.T.! I LIKE TV ONE! Wow i feel better now!

  59. gravatar creolediva
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    im riding with clint…spike needs to sit down…clint was responding to spikes FIRST attack..and if he wants a war epic with blacks included, why doesnt he just do one?? he picks the worst causes to champion…he is just a bitter director and actors say hes the pits to work with..so effin what if there were no black actors in his film?? dont patronize it…i woulda told his asss to shut his face and his asss cuz hes confusing the two…

  60. gravatar WrongY'all
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    @Creolediva,
    I agree Spike should do a war epic and focus on blacks HOWEVER, Spikes original comment was that if you do a hsitorical movie then do it correctly and blacks were there!

  61. gravatar hellno
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    Man “a” talks trash about man “b”, man “b” responds with shut-up. Where is the racism? Spikes the racist, bringing up plantations. What hells wrong with him, someone tells you to shut up, Spike goes to the extreme of slavery? He’s a pile.

    As for the blacks who were there, 900 out of 30,000 and they were in segregated units. Since the movies were not about WWII in general, Clint was right.

    When it comes to being old, Spike has a nerve. Over 50 and doing this drama queen stuff. Obama high rode my ass, Spike hangs as low as you can go.

  62. gravatar realwoman
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    Sounds like Clint can’t take constructive criticism. Oh well. I doubt many Black people are going to go see his INACCURATE movie anyway, ESPECIALLY once they find out it is inaccurate because of it’s lack of Blacks.

    There are various ways to deliver information. The big screen is just one of them. I will NEVER let a Clint Eastwood teach myself or my children Black history but I still commend Spike Lee on speaking up on Eastwood’s obvious shortcomings in the movie’s research and accurate representation of ALL people involved in this one symbolic act of the war.

    What people fail to realize is that Clint Eastwood reaches a certain group that Spike will never reach just because of his skin color combined with his fearless exposure of a corrupt system in his movies. That is where Eastwood failed. HE should be the one to let whites know that Blacks were also helping out and no matter how lowly their jobs, they did help out with that flag in some way.

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    @glok9n

    If you never read the book “Spook”, it is about a Black man who plays the Uncle Tom role in order to obtain a job as an agent for the CIA. After earning the job he begins to learn the secrets of the CIA (guerilla warfare, covert ops, weaponry, etc.) and subsequently teaches these tactics to the gangs of Chicago to prepare for a Revolution. Imagine that same type ish using the gangs of today (Bloods,Crips,etc.) If you can find a copy of the book or movie it is worth while to read or see. When I went to buy a copy from Borders (or Barnes and Noble..can’t remember) I could only get a used copy and then they wanted my driver’s liscense. Any other time I requested a book all they needed was a phone number but this time they wanted to make sure Big Brother could see. (I buy ALL books in cash on purpose).

    @Wrong Y’all

    Illumanati didn’t have to make B. Johnson do anything. The average person can be bought out at some price. When we as people realize truth and knowledge has more value than money (I can prove it) we will all be better off.

  64. gravatar Lush-Us Lipps
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    Good for you Spike Lee!

  65. gravatar shar
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    @ I’m just me

    Please explain. Are you deceased, is your name John Doe?

  66. gravatar BLUNTBLAZER
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    SPIKE DESERVES RESPECT

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  68. gravatar Ansymo
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    I guess Spike’s punk a$$ feels lucky….

  69. gravatar Angel_Minded
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    IlluminateTruth(Check me out!)

    The sad part is that not having Blacks in the movie is a misrepresentation of facts but does anyone realize that there are no Black shows on ANY of the major TV networks (ABC,CBS,NBC and FOX) Please don’t mention UPN (U People’s Netork)which is owned by FOX. I think we already have an idea of their agenda and if all they are going to give me is Flava Flav then well………
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    I have agreed with EVERYTHING you said. In fact, “Girlfriends” showed too many positive black females at one time so the CW had to cut the show without a finale. “The Game” (which is entertaining but not on the same level as GF-with Toni Childs) is still on but beginning next season, the show will air on Fridays at 8pm. Now no one can tell me that CW is not trying to get rid of the color on thier station!

    I say Viacom/BET need to step up and buy real sitcoms and handle the reruns later

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    The reason why there are no positive black shows that air on major networkds such as CBS/ABC/NBC is because of poor ratings. I think that major networks have made attempts to produce positive black shows but they all get cancelled due to poor ratings. I don’t think it’s a media conspiracy to get rid of black TV shows it’s just that it’s become a waste of money. Which is also why there aren’t a lot of black films at the theaters…poor sales!

    BTW, “Girlfriends” was cancelled due to poor ratings…not a conspiracy!

  70. gravatar Koi Norelle
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    I don’t think that telling someone to “shut their face” is a racist comment. To me that’s like a milder way of saying, “Ho, sit down.” Bossip says that a lot and that sounds a lot worse.

  71. gravatar Screw Spike lee
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    Spike lee the little Runt loud mouth N needs to shut up.Stupid .

  72. gravatar porterwayne757
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    Why is Spike still relevant? He needs to go read the history books based on Iwo Jima. Clint makes a good point there were no African Americans “raising “the flag at Iwo with which his movie is based, sorry but there were not. So why should he misrepresent his artwork to make Spike happy. If he did the movie based on the people who supported the people raising the flag then Spike you have a point. Why Spike would go after Clint on this level really surprises me considering Spike passed up doing the Charlie Parker joint that Clint did. maybe Spike should do his own movie and quit hatin’. If i was in Clints place i might have been like “ho sit down, i got Oscars and Emmys what you got…go ahead make my day?

  73. gravatar glok9n
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    Illuminate Truth my mind slip me yes i did see that movie on Tv One …. a few yrs back it was a great Blk Revolutionary pic i was proud of the idea but you know who won’t allow that pic to be revised in this day in time!Big Brother iz watching!!!

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    @ porterwayne757

    People who supported the people raising the flag? You do realize of course that without ALL the people that actually put their lives on the line (Blacks included) that the flag would have never been raised. If the whole movie was just based on raising a piece of fabric then your point would be valid but the TRUTH is that the movie covered the whole 35+ day battle in which there were numerous Blacks. So please do yourself a favor and pick up a His-Story book yourself so you can enlighten yourself to the fact that Blacks fought in all American major wars dating back to the Revolutionary War. Bottom line, if you portray the Battle of Iwo Jima without any Black representation then it is just not factually accurate. Eastwood can cast his movies any way he feels like, but do not call it what it isn’t….historically correct. No, there were not any Blacks “raising the flag” but how about some recognition for doing the work that lead to that moment.

  75. gravatar WrongY'all
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    @Illuminate
    Illumanati didn’t have to make B. Johnson do anything. The average person can be bought out at some price. When we as people realize truth and knowledge has more value than money (I can prove it) we will all be better off.

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    I work in DC and I work in the circles that know. Bob Johnson is not your average person and consider how much money it would take to buy off a BILLIONAIRE. IT goes way beyond Money, it is about the New World Order and power. If you don’t know what you are talking the F**K about don’t try to jump in. Barack, Vernon Jordan, Bob Johnson, Hill Harper and a few other Black Men are Boule and Illuminati in addition to being Masons of the HIGHEST Degree. You can read about it in the library while I live/work it every day. The NWO is here and using every possible avenue to establish world domination.

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    @Wrong y’all

    Yeah, I read New World Order, Illumanit 666,etc. You should try reading about Skull and Bones (Yale) and The Order (Oxford). Both of these secret societies are alot more powerful than the masons. Which masonic order do the people you list belong to? Scottish Rite? None of them are of Nordic / Aryan descent so how entrenched in the Illumanati can they be? By the way, masonic highest degree is 33 degrees not 32 so are you stating that these Black men are of that status? Just asking since I don’t know what the f**k I’m talking about.

  77. gravatar iheartchicken
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    I think the part that seemed racist was not in the actually words “shut your face” but the fact that Clint leveled such a dismissive and disrespectful statement to a grown man such as spike to begin with. Would he have said the same thing to Scorcesse(sp?), Speilberg, Woody Allan, etc. under the same circumstances? That comment smacked of someone feeling like the other person did not know their “place” and being abruptly reminded of just where it was.

  78. gravatar WrongY'all
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    Barack,Vernon Jordan and Hill Harper= Skull and Bones

    You obviously don’t know how the Boule and the NWO are entrenched.

    And if you don’t know what degree I am speaking of then your REALLY dnt know. Just because you think 33 is the highest degree, dsnt mean it is.

    Again READING books about life will never EQUAL the knowledge acquired by LIVING that life.

    Class dismissed….

  79. gravatar Lovely One
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    Angel_Minded(Check me out!)

    IlluminateTruth(Check me out!)

    The sad part is that not having Blacks in the movie is a misrepresentation of facts but does anyone realize that there are no Black shows on ANY of the major TV networks (ABC,CBS,NBC and FOX) Please don’t mention UPN (U People’s Netork)which is owned by FOX. I think we already have an idea of their agenda and if all they are going to give me is Flava Flav then well………
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    I have agreed with EVERYTHING you said. In fact, “Girlfriends” showed too many positive black females at one time so the CW had to cut the show without a finale. “The Game” (which is entertaining but not on the same level as GF-with Toni Childs) is still on but beginning next season, the show will air on Fridays at 8pm. Now no one can tell me that CW is not trying to get rid of the color on thier station!

    I say Viacom/BET need to step up and buy real sitcoms and handle the reruns later

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    The reason why there are no positive black shows that air on major networkds such as CBS/ABC/NBC is because of poor ratings. I think that major networks have made attempts to produce positive black shows but they all get cancelled due to poor ratings. I don’t think it’s a media conspiracy to get rid of black TV shows it’s just that it’s become a waste of money. Which is also why there aren’t a lot of black films at the theaters…poor sales!

    BTW, “Girlfriends” was cancelled due to poor ratings…not a conspiracy!
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    I work for an Advertising Agency so I will tell you the following:

    1. Girlfriends was the highest AA show as far as ratings were concerned & the show was soo popular that if renewed it wouldve surpassed the Cosby show as the most episodes/seasons for an AA show
    2. Gossip Girl has still been renewed DESPITE horrible ratings. Infact, the CW argues that the reason for GG’s bad ratings is b/c the show can be scene online. That excuse is BOGUS b/c Desperate Housewives episodes are also offered online & that show continues to have good ratings
    3. You cannot compare the CW line up to CBS, Fox or NBC b/c the latter stations target the general market (age 25-54)
    4. The CW/UPN have always targeted the niche market (women 18-34) & (men 18-34) - The AA market is a niche market so what has the CW gained from canceling “Girlfriends”?
    5. Despite failing ratings of “Gossip Girl” the CW continues to offer shows with the same story line and char. makeup. EX.) Beverly Hills 90210 & Surviving Filthy Rich (All these shows follow rich mainstream kids so why do I need to see 3 diff versions of this show on the same network)
    6. Stylista by Tyra Banks is also a new show but we know how mainstream that will be(not that I have a prob with that)

    QUESTION: How do you cancel the highest rated AA sitcom (which can make history) without a season finale?

    THE REAL PROBLEM: Advertisers truly dont appreciate the black dollar. Articles report that advertisers are rooting for Gossip Girl due to “promise” and not “ratings” but “Girlfriends” had “ratings” and a diminishing “promise”

    CONCLUSION: As hard core fans, we should’ve at least scene Jones wedding.

  80. gravatar Lovely One
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    I think the part that seemed racist was not in the actually words “shut your face” but the fact that Clint leveled such a dismissive and disrespectful statement to a grown man such as spike to begin with. Would he have said the same thing to Scorcesse(sp?), Speilberg, Woody Allan, etc. under the same circumstances? That comment smacked of someone feeling like the other person did not know their “place” and being abruptly reminded of just where it was.
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    Good point

  81. gravatar DaPro
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    Illunimate and Wrong

    I luv when we can drop science on one another in a positive light

    Education is not about one upping, it’s about enlightenment.

    The two of you have dropped pieces of info. that I wasn’t aware of, please continue to do so but lets do it right brothas

    Peace

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    Racist? So a white person can’t tell a black person to shut up, or vice versa, without it being “racist?”

    I guess my brother’s girlfriend must be in trouble then, as I expect she tells him to shut up quite often, and she is black.

    Spike is a passive-aggressive clown. He needs to stick to what he does best, exorcising his sexual perversions and misogyny on film.

    Bossip is usually funny but you are off the mark on this one, as so many of the comments have expressed. Abandon your objectivity and become a slave to your own prejudices.

  83. gravatar Eleanor Rigby
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    @Lovely One…Good insight. And I agree: As a hard core fan of “Girlfriends,” I would have liked to have seen a series finale, specifically Joan’s wedding.

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    @ wrong y’all

    How are these people in the Skull and Bones when they did not attend Yale such as Bush (Jr. and Sr.), John Kerry, Goodyear, Rockefeller, Cheney or to Oxford (The Order) like Bill Clinton? Are you stating that the Illumanati is giving out honorary memberships? This “life” that you speak of which is the source of your knowledge must include some real good cannibas. I know of this NWO you are talking about (see the World Banking Organization) but….wow.

  85. gravatar Eleanor Rigby
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    * I meant ‘have to agree” :)

  86. gravatar Ms Sharmaine
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    I am so tired of this catfight between these two. Spike should not use Obama name in vain.
    Spike should not give a flying rats ass about Clint’s movies.
    Clint’s comment about Spike should shut his face is some old man language.
    I wish they would make movies not war!!!

  87. gravatar Tomfoolery Tackler
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    For the life of me I will never understand why everytime a white person puts an out of line black person in check or simply defends himself against unfounded accusations, he’s acutomatically considered a racist. Black folks love to cry out, “RACISM” before reviewing the facts. This is embarassing to the more intelligent of “us”. Spike talks more mess than a little bit and often without proper research. Clint happened to have his ducks in a row this time and therefore could comfortably tell Spike to shut his pie hole. The fact that he made a movie about Charlie Parker received very little recognition from Spike at the time but he’s quick to jump on him about Flags Of Our Fathers which focused on a small and specific group of men not every man involved in that war. And why do we spend so much time jumping on Spike’s bandwagon instead of being alarmed by his gratuitous titty scenes. Wake up folks. The Sun is out.

  88. gravatar MO
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    You tell him Spike!! “A guy like that should shut his face up” what exactly does he mean by “a guy like that”? Haters come in all sizes and colors!!!!

  89. gravatar dubya
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    I tell you, for a group of people who own no major television stations, major movie production companies, major television companies, major advertising companies, major financial institutions, you sure do have a lot of demands.

  90. gravatar dubya
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    It’s not so much racism as it is a result of having no voice. We, as black people, own very little, thus we have very little bargaining chips. Yet, we are the loudest to bark when something does not go our way.

    Even if there were a million black people who raised the flag and Clint still decided to not have a single one in the movie, he’s footing the bill and does not have to cater to you regardless of history.

    Take your grievances to Tyler Perry.

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    @ Da Pro
    Just trying to get info on what “y’all wrong” is stating because those are very profound accusations. I’m not saying Brother is wrong since the Illumanati is a SECRET organization but Black men being directly involved seems remote at best. I was hoping he could shed more light (=truth) on his statements beyond that “he is living it”.
    Your point about doing it right is well taken. My hope when I post on this site is to go beyond the typical rhetoric and exchange knowledge with ANYONE about ANYTHING in hopes that I can learn SOMETHING. If two people exchange a dollar then those people end up with exactly what they started with; but when two people exchange knowledge they both end up with more than they began with therefore becoming richer. (Not mines, I paraphrased Muhammad Ali talking about how knowledge is worth more that money)

  92. gravatar dubya
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    Ms Sharmain: was your comment “using Obama’s name in vain” a Freudian slip?

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    @ dubya

    You are right about not having the bargaining chips. (Tyler Perry though?) The limited bargaining chips that we do have is our buying power since our race spends more of our money (as opposed to saving) than any other race. A Black economist (sorry, forgot his name off hand) once said if 30% of Blacks did not buy anything during the XMAS season (TOTAL boycott) that we could bring retail America to her knees. Can we sacrifice our children not getting the latest sneakers, video game, etc. for one year? Owning our own production companies, tv stations, etc. would be a start but sometimes I think we need to turn the idiot box off anyway and start from there.

  94. gravatar DR.FUNK
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    STFU AGAIN…. BOSSIP & SPIKE.Neither of you would know class if it jumped up & backhanded you.Clint is right.Spike is a race-baiting VICTICRAT…who make SHITTY MOVIES.

  95. gravatar DaPro
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    @ Truth (Illuminate Truth)

    you know I’m always for the exchange and expression of ideas amongst each other as long as it doesn’t go the “typical’ blog route and resort to name calling

    I think the two of have put up valid points of info.

    Spike shouldn’t be surprised by the omission of blacks from the film. It has been happening for years, the only way to change HIS-Story is to rewrite it the correct way through research and attention to detail

  96. gravatar ksn
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    Spike everything you said is always 100%correct.
    many of us are depending on you,so some fulls they get very upset and write nonsense in the post.
    feel sorry for them they & their supporters are ashamed and they fill threatened.
    Truth is very powerful.

  97. gravatar I'm Just Me
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    @ shar

    I am rolling over in my grave because you I died from laughing so hard at your comment and it is so funny it still has me rolling in my grave.

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