Tuesday, May 13th, 2008

So Much For That*

Posted by Bossip Staff

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Remy Ma and Papoose’s nuptials were called off yesterday thanks to Pap and his hair brain schemes:

“A wedding was scheduled today and a visitor to that wedding service was found to be in possession of jail contraband so the wedding was canceled. The key that was found today easily opened handcuffs that we and other law enforcement officials use. Now the 29-year-old Brooklyn-born Papoose - real name Shamele Mackie - won’t be able to see his fiancée until November.

The visitor was sanctioned by not being able to visit Rikers Island again for six months.He was asked to leave. Papoose was not charged after he voluntarily surrendered the key to authorities. He was quickly ushered out of the jail and never got to enter the prison island’s Rose M. Singer chapel in which the two were set to say their “I do’s.”

How stupid is he to think that that would actually work? What a dumbass…

*Update: Remy Ma has been sentenced to 8 years in prison:

“Remy Ma was sentenced to eight years in prison today by a Manhattan Supreme Court judge for shooting her friend Makeda Barnes-Joseph after the two argued over money after leaving a party.”

Now let’s see how eager Papoose will be to reschedule that wedding. SMH.

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  1. gravatar kaly
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    she is so hot

  2. gravatar REAL2REELVISIONS
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    1st

  3. gravatar kaly
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    how hot she is..why are people interested in talking about her even though these are fake things? you should have known the fake news about her pregnancy and her joining the rich men seeking affairs site called S u g a r M i n g l e.c om.. I can not believe any piece of her news.

  4. gravatar REAL2REELVISIONS
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    Bastard beat me

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    I guess the whole “wedding” was a publicity stunt. These two hood rats know better than anyone what they can and can’t bring to a jail visit. Even two idiots know that there was no way he was going to break her out simply by unlocking her handcuffs. Dumb and Dumber I tell ya.

  6. gravatar guilty pleasure
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    “Papoose - real name Shamele Mackie”

    Wow! LOL……..

  7. gravatar REAL2REELVISIONS
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    Everyone knows Papoose was not trying to break out fis jail bird tranny friend. What do ya`ll think this is Bonnie and Clyde 08.

    check out this artist at
    http://www.myspace.com/egocartelmusic

  8. gravatar I really hope this isn't as good as it gets....
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    um…ignorance is bliss

  9. gravatar ~*~IslandNik~*~
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    hahahaha… i love this!!! its better than the hills…

  10. gravatar cocoa49
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    all i can say is……..WTF?!?!?

  11. gravatar Paint it Red
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    Y’all kidding me right?! These 2 dumb fucks, I swear…

  12. gravatar BKkid
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    OK Bossip now BE SERIOUS! Does that even sound right? Hit up missinfo.tv or nahright for what appears to be a more plausible explanation.

  13. gravatar oh brotha
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    jackasses.

  14. gravatar Ugly Nikki
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    this is stupid

  15. (Check me out!)

    Now he Pap kno he not no Scarface type Gangsta N***A 2 try and pull this type of s**t off LOL

  16. gravatar da darkness
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    flukeness. i kno it when i read it. this is a tabloid stunt

  17. (Check me out!)

    i meant now Pap kno…….

  18. gravatar lisa
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    I am curious so still some celebrities and rich people feel lonely.
    I found them on site called—————————”C e l e b M i n g l e . c o m”last night.

  19. gravatar Jahpson
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    what the hell is she wearing in that pic?

  20. gravatar DumbBitches
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    The dumbest of all dumbasses know that shit wouldn’t work. Come on.

    I need to find another source to see if this shit really did happen

  21. gravatar Al-Anon
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    Hey Guys,

    Brilliant move on his part!! He doesn’t have to marry her now and in six months time………he’ll have a new ladyfriend. Probably already got a girl and pulled this stunt so he could get out of marrying her. Who wants to marry a jailbird?

  22. gravatar I'm Just Me
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    WOW!!! I guess he needed something to give him more time! LMAO!! Are you serious??? How do you even explain that. He should be lucky he is not sitting up there in OBCC after that foolishness.

  23. gravatar lil latte
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    He knew what he was doing….

  24. gravatar WordzOfaProphet
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    Ghetto Love, not black love….just pure deep-fried GHETTO LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!

  25. (Check me out!)

    Bull $h1t! No one is this stupid! He did that on purpose so he wouldn’t have to marry her azz, and better still, get banned from the jail…

  26. gravatar No Bitchazzness (FUZZY)
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    Ok so was they trying to do a ghetto “prison break”?Wow they are really a couple of DAN’S

  27. gravatar da darkness
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    at least there weren’t any phili cops that caught him. Papoose could of been beaten into the concrete

  28. (Check me out!)

    You should have put a FILE in a cake STUPID !

  29. gravatar getyourhandouttamypocket
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    guilty pleasure(Check me out!)

    “Papoose - real name Shamele Mackie”

    Wow! LOL……..
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    ****tee hee :)*****

    Someone needs to teach her how to stand while wearing a dress…Ugh

  30. gravatar getyourhandouttamypocket
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    Mornin’ errbody!

  31. gravatar num1dominicano
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    ridiculous

  32. gravatar Southern Belle 225
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    Good Morning all!

    @i’m just me…hey girl and I hear that! He didn’t want to get married so he just made it look like a slip up! SMH I don’t blame him though. I couldn’t marry somebody facing 25 years.

  33. gravatar Anonymous3 - the fire sign
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    he didn’t want to marry her anyway (not that he is such a catch) so he probably stayed up all night trying to figure out how he was going to get out of it, not upset her and buy him some more time…hmmmmm I know???!! *lightbulb goes off* I’ll take some drugs on the scene and get my priveliges revoked

  34. gravatar Al-Anon
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    Six months is a long time to be away from your boo!

    Getting himself banned from the jail was a ploy so that he don’t even have to visit her. Out of sight, out of mind!

  35. (Check me out!)

    Actually I read the real story and it seems that key has always been on Papoose’s key ring. He has visited Rikers many times with it. Either they just discovered it or they wanted to stop the wedding. Who knows.

  36. (Check me out!)

    looks cool..haha…not like those pictures my friends shared with me on casualpal.com

  37. gravatar Toni Montana
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    on the ground weak….how f*#kin far did he think they was gonna get? she was gonna undo the handcuffs and make a run for it hand in hand bonnie and clyde style?
    get real. im not even sure i believe this. how dumb can u be.

  38. gravatar Tikki
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    Oh please he pulled a smart one so he could get a reason for not visitig her. He ain’t that stupid. You really think he has time to go through that long @$$ procedure for a 1 hour visit? Now think about it, how far did he really think they were gonna get? A lady died on the visiting floor about 18 months ago cause she couldn’t bring her asthma pump on the visiting floor and he thought a key would get pass them. Come on….

  39. gravatar SoSo
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    So was he gonna free remy??? What the hell was the key for?! He’s dumb if he thought he was getting her out that place.

  40. gravatar I'm Just Me
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    @ BIRD

    CAN YOU REFER US TO THE REAL STORY? PLEASE. I AM TIRED OF BOSSIP TELLING HALF TRUTHS!

    WHERE CAN WE SEE THE “REAL DEAL”?

  41. (Check me out!)

    LMAOROTGDF!!!!

    Why, Lawd.., why?

    http://www.jhazzaisworld.wordpress.com

  42. gravatar Just for fun
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    Guess there was just no other way for Poose the Goose to get outta this one he had to do some ridiculous sh*t. Can’t imagine what it would be like to just break up with this b*tch and not have to die.

  43. gravatar I'm Just Me
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    @ Southern

    GOOD MORNING MOMMA!! HAPPY BELATED MOTHER’S DAY IF YOU ARE A MOMMA!

  44. gravatar Brooklyn, Stand UP!
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    Good Morning All!!

    What a dumb MF. How stupid can you be to pull something like that @ Rikers Island. Like they are not going to do a thural check on anyone who comes to visit an inmate! I guess common sense is not to common these days.

  45. gravatar Lauren
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    @ I’m Just me & So So…mornign ladies!

  46. gravatar Lauren
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    HELLO BROOKLYN!!!!!

  47. gravatar sxyQblondie
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    WOWWW! THATS ALL I CAN SAY. WHOSE THE “REAL” RIDE OR DIE CHICK IN THIS SITUATION?

  48. gravatar glok9n
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    AWWW FUK I WAS HEADING TO THERE WEDDING THIS EVENING I JUST BOUGHT THE HIZ AND HERZ MATCHING TOOTH BRUSHES,ISNAGGED SOME BOOTLEGGED NEWPORTS BY THE CARTON,I REALLY WAS IN THE MOOD FOR THAT TURKEY ROLL,AND TO THINK WE HAD THE CHOICE OF CHOOSING MASHED POTATOES OR TATER TOTZ ,DAMN BLK PPL CANT DO SHIT RIGHT,WELL ATLEAST WE GOT TO SEE THE WEDDING DRESS SHE LOOKD SO LOVELY IN STRIPES!

  49. gravatar Brooklyn, Stand UP!
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    Hey Lauren!! What’s up girlie?

  50. (Check me out!)

    Miss “Marche” would probably think Remy’s dress is fantastic, if ya’ll know what I mean ;-)

    Remy looks like she has a smell. *Sigh*

  51. gravatar Lauren
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    BK….Hiya! Nothing at all….how was your weekend??

  52. (Check me out!)

    I’m Just Me

    From Miss Info’s Blog

    Just got off the phone with DJ Kay Slay, the Drama King….

    Apparently, Papoose was going through the usual security checks at Rikers, on his way to him and Remy’s wedding ceremony today. At one point, a corrections officer was inspecting his keychain and pointed out an old skeleton key that Pap had on the chain. Pap has apparently had all the keys for a long time, and he’s visited Rikers on numerous occasions with the same keychain and never had a problem. But once the CO says he can’t enter with the keys, he gladly gives them up.

    But as Pap is about to get on the bus to Rikers, along with Remy’s mom and their other 3 guests. The CO’s pull Papoose and tell him he needs to see the Warden. Papoose is throw into a jailcell, and when he finally sees the Warden, he is accused of….(you ready?)…trying to pass Remy the skeleton key so she can pick the lock on her handcuffs and…..then….somehow….break out of Rikers Island on some Shawshank Redemption/Andy Dufraine shit. WTF?

    The Warden not only cancels Papoose and Remy’s wedding, and to throw more salt in the wound, they ban Pap from visiting his fiancee for the next 6 months. And she gets sentenced tomorrow morning.

    Cruel.

  53. gravatar Brooklyn, Stand UP!
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    @Re

    LMAO @ Remy looks like she has a smell. *Sigh*

  54. gravatar ARTOFWAR
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    It is clear to me, that the handcuff key incident was a strategic plan by Mr. (SHAMELE MACKIE???). A desperate plan hatched, in order to escape his pending nuptials. Or maybe it is, I’ am just giving Papoose, too much credit. ARTOFWAR.

  55. gravatar Brooklyn, Stand UP!
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    @Lauren

    My weekend was great. Did you get to check out Ironman yet? It’s a really good flix.

  56. gravatar Southern Belle 225
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    @Lauren and Re…Hello ladies! Happy be-lated Mother’s Day to all the moms!

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    @Bk
    Lol, something about the greasy skin and the scarf she wrapped around herself and pinned reminds me of someone I knew with a smell.

    @Southernbelle
    Hey! You see who inspired Marche to “create” her dress up there? Lol, you ever finish watching the wire, btw?

  58. gravatar I'm Just Me
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    @ Brooklyn, Lauren, SoSo

    MORNING Y’ALL

    @ Bird…

    Wow! Sounds like some Riker’s Foolishness. They are always changing the rules. Sad. It is actually kind of sad. If he gave up the key what is the big freaking deal?

  59. gravatar Brooklyn, Stand UP!
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    @Re

    LMPRAO… What the hell is that she’s wearing anyway?

  60. gravatar Brooklyn, Stand UP!
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    @I’m Just Me

    Good Morning!!!

  61. gravatar beautiful b
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    wow…thats funny. real comical and music video-ish.

  62. (Check me out!)

    @Bk

    Lol, I told you, its a shiny scarf with a brooch attached to the side. Complete with a tub of vaseline for her legs and 60 pounds of a Chinese ladie’s hair.

  63. gravatar Brooklyn, Stand UP!
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    @I’m Just Me

    Wow! Sounds like some Riker’s Foolishness. They are always changing the rules. Sad. It is actually kind of sad. If he gave up the key what is the big freaking deal?
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    They (CO’s) do it cause they can. If they can f*** up an inmates day they will… Especially if your running your mouth about how your commissary is more that their annual salary. Did you think they were just going to let her perfect little wedding go down?

  64. (Check me out!)

    *lady’s* my fault.

  65. gravatar Brooklyn, Stand UP!
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    @Re

    LOL!!! WOW, your making me laugh so early in the morning, lol… I see what your talking about, lol! She looks terrible in that get-up. SMH

    PS> Thanx for the laugh, I needed that. :)

  66. gravatar as seen on t.v.
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    always a bridesmaid never a prison bride….poor thing…smh…

  67. gravatar Lauren
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    @ Southern Belle….thanks! Same to you!!!

    @ Bk….I haven’t seen IRONMAN yet…I might go catch it tonight…i won’t be disappointed???

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    @Bk
    Lol, trust me, I know. My co-worker keeps me sane here at the J-O-B.

  69. gravatar Coop
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    Sounds like a excuse not to get married.

  70. gravatar bree
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    HE SO DID NOT WANT TO GET MARRIED! why else would he bring the damn master key with him? Remy he is stalling, sorry for ya, but you have time anyways! LOL

  71. gravatar Doc
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    someone say this better than hill il say its better than A SPANISH NOVELA

  72. gravatar dre
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    brooklynnnnn what up fammm, just passing thru i shall be back later

  73. (Check me out!)

    Brooklyn, Stand UP!(Check me out!)

    They (CO’s) do it cause they can. If they can f*** up an inmates day they will… Especially if your running your mouth about how your commissary is more that their annual salary. Did you think they were just going to let her perfect little wedding go down?
    **************************************************

    THANK YOU! Remy is not a bright chick. It’s probably better for her children that they get a few years of break time from being raised by her. I hope they are with someone with their head screwed on straight.

  74. gravatar Al-Anon
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    Poose the Goose slipped his Noose!!

  75. gravatar PIMP DADDY
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    PAPOOSE NEEDS CLOTHES THAT FIT HIS BABY DINOSAUR BODY.

  76. gravatar Southern Belle 225
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    @Re…girl yes! I finally finished seasons 1 thru 4. I haven’t seen season 5 yet because HBO on demand won’t put on! But it was really good and I’m so glad that I decided to watch. I was SICK when Stinger Bell was killed but I managed to move on “snickering”!

  77. gravatar I'm Just Me
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    @ Brooklyn

    You are right, she was type talking trash about her money being more stacked than their checks. I forgot about that. They probably sat in wait with that shyt and pounced on it today! Wonder what their individuals reactions were.

  78. gravatar Ro Ro
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    ha ha ha ha ha ha. That is just hilarious. If you ask me it sounds like Papoose did that ish on purpose. He knew he ain’t wanna marry that Hee Haw!!

    ha ha ha ha ha. (Picturing Remy Ma running back to her cell, dragging her hand against the cell bars, screaming “Why”)

    LMFAO…. rediculous.

  79. (Check me out!)

    Brooklyn… Good morning bro!!! Hows it going on the East Coast… it cooled off in Sun city today its like in the 70’s but hey thats good b/c the sun is dry here!!!! luv ya!

  80. (Check me out!)

    Brooklyn… i googled B mac man and was laughing again he is too funny.. thanks!!!!!

  81. gravatar goldyn5md
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    what is her hair like?

  82. gravatar kittylicious aka melanie
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    Remmy has to be buggin to think anyone is going to marry her when she is facing 25 year, why would he, she just stopped hers, I mean his money flow, so what’s the point? All well, life’s a bitch

  83. gravatar bree
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    Hello Lauren & Kittylicious!

  84. gravatar mrslaadee
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    Those fools are crazy as he**! There is no way in he** they thought they could just break her out of jail like that. And just in case for some off the wall reason their plan actually worked, how long did they think it would be before they got caught? Neither RemyMa nor Papoose has the money it would take to run away somewhere and live undetected for the rest of the lives.

  85. gravatar BLUNTBLAZER
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    HE WASNT GONNA WIFE HER TRY TRYNA SELL CDS
    THAT THEY NEVA GONNA DROP

    http://WWW.MYSPACE.COM/THAGRINDAHOLIC
    KEEP IT GHETTO

  86. gravatar DPrez
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    Its a genius plan if you ask me.
    What better way to get out of marrying that hoodrat.
    -Nobody’s that dumb to sneak a handcuff key into a PRISON.

  87. (Check me out!)

    @Southernbelle
    “I was SICK when Stinger Bell was killed.”

    Was I EVER! I sat next to my husband trying to keep a straight face. I had tears in my eyes, couldn’t speak, eat, sleep…

    Lol, he’s freakin’ hot. And I don’t even really get into all that celeb crushes like that.

  88. (Check me out!)

    Beyonce is way hotta than her!

  89. (Check me out!)

    Oh I just read that update, I can’t believe it- 8yrs! (I guess that’s better than 25, but wow.)

  90. gravatar jimjones
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    Sounds like a really well thought out plan.

  91. gravatar gimme a break
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    BREAKING NEW!!!!!
    AS REPORTED BY TMZ.COM
    THIS BITCH WAS JUST SENTENCES TO 8YRS IN PRISON
    GOOD FOR OLD WASH UP ASS
    LMAO DUM BITCHES WANT A BE GANSTA

  92. gravatar kigali
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    Reminds me of those cartoons where someone was planning a jail break by putting a saw in a cake. Silly wabbits!

  93. gravatar Who Done it?
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    WOW I guess you could say her man is Down for her. What was he thinking? Were they going to make a run for it, or maybe he was going to try and get some prison booty and just wanted to hold her one last time. YOu really can’t make this shit up Fact is better than fiction.

  94. gravatar Al-Anon
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    Don’t worry, be happy!! Remy will still get wifed up in the pen with one of those dykes (dickless wonders) and live happily ever after!

  95. gravatar Detroiter4Life
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    Dang 8 years!?! ;p How old are her kids? She really screwed her life up tryna be Ghetto Fab!

  96. gravatar Chaka
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    OMG! 8 years! Ain’t that some shit! That’s what ya’ll get for trying to be all hard…this is a serious ass world…

  97. gravatar soulwoman
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    Remi is lucky, she got off easy.

  98. gravatar num1dominicano
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    damn…oh well…

    @ Re

    I just wanted to comment on how pretty you are. I remember you commenting before that you work on GA…we going to have to get up one afternoon…

  99. gravatar dre
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    remy ma, gooooooooooooodbyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! fairwellllllll

  100. gravatar I'm Just Me
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    8 years! DAXN! That is some time. You think Papoose gonna be faithful:D Just wondering. I do feel bad for her seed(s) though but I am guess that chump change wasn’t worth it now huh Remy?

  101. gravatar Rozza
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    When is someone going to arrest this guy for sheer, unadulterated stupidity? And WTH kind of name is Papoose?!?!? Isn’t that a bundled-up Native American baby?

  102. gravatar Doc
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    wow 8 years is litle too much but if you did the crime you must do the time.

  103. gravatar Doc
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    The key that was found today easily opened handcuffs that we and other law enforcement officials use.

    i guess they keys was his wedding gift to her.

  104. gravatar Lee
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    They look like the perfect couple. I hope they don’t reproduce.

  105. gravatar 2cents
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    He did that on purpose. He knew that verdict was likely to come soon, so he pulled a dumb move to get out of that wedding. That man is not going to wait eight years for her, let alone four. It’s a wrap Rem can forget about it.

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    I hope it’s a joke …. i can’t understand how u can be so stupid ….

    8 years gonna be long for her…

  107. gravatar gimme a break
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    OLD NEWS BOSSIP
    I BROKE IT ON YOUR WEBSITE FIRST

  108. (Check me out!)

    “When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong”

  109. gravatar justmoi
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    Only eight years, for attempted murder….???

    LOL @ Octavia.

  110. gravatar amazonia
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    Wow 8 years is a long time!!! I feel really bad for her kids. However. I do’nt want to sound harsh but maybe they’re better of without her. She is a hoodrat. But Ya’ll know kids need and miss their mom. I feel really bad for them. Sad story. Another black family torn up.

  111. gravatar Lady elle
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    okay Octavia……..

  112. gravatar Rozza
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    @Octavia: LOL! Some straight Dave Chapelle stuff right there…

  113. gravatar Whatchaknoaboutdat?
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    Woooooo, 8 years is a long time… she will come out smarter, wiser and more humble because of it. We all learn from our mistakes… or at least most of us.

    I will say a prayer for her and her children.

  114. gravatar Tonia Johnson
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    8 YEARS IS THE TIME THEY GAVE HER!!! WHAT ABOUT MAKEDA BARNES WHO WAS SHOT IN THE GUT?? REMY DESERVED WHAT SHE GOT! YOU DON’T SHOOT SOMEONE AND THINK THAT YOUR GETTING OFF, WHETHER THEY SURVIVED OR NOT!! WHO KNOWS WHAT PROBLEMS MAKEDA HAS NOW DEALING WITH THAT DUMB HUSSY!! SHE’LL PROBABLY HAVE A LIFTIME OF PROBLEMS BEING AS THOUGH SHE WAS SHOT IN HER STOMACH.. I FEEL FOR HER SON WHO IS SAID TO BE YOUNG, NOT EVEN A TEENAGER YET. I BET SITTING THERE TODAY THINKING ABOUT THIS CRAP IS MAKING HER SICK. SHE PROBABLY CAN’T BELIEVE THAT SHE TOOK HER OWN LIFE DOWN THIS PATH OF DISTRUCTION!! 2G’S 3G’S IT’S SOOOOOO NOT WORTH IT… ALL THIS CRAP SHE’S TALKING ON D-J KAY-SLAY ABOUT HER COMMISSARY BEING MORE PALLAD THEN THE C’OS PAYROLL.. IF YOUR THE PAID RAPPER YOU CLAIM TO BE, WHY DIDN’T SHE JUST CUT MAKEDA OFF 2 STACKS 3 STACKS SHOULD BE NOTHING!!! SHM

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    I read somewhere that her man wnet to jail? Too bad she will not do all 8. But her stupid ass needs some time to sit it on down, and think!! Ur only hard with a gun??? If she would have knocked the bitch like suge knight got she would not be doing time. I’ve just always did mine with the hands!!! Plus, I’m scared of guns:|

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    I read somewhere that her man went to jail? Too bad she will not do all 8. But her stupid ass needs some time to sit it on down, and think!! Ur only hard with a gun??? If she would have knocked the chick out, like suge knight got she would not be doing time. I’ve just always did mine with the hands!!! Plus, I’m scared of guns:|