Excuses, Excuses
Posted by Bossip Staff
Bill Clinton gives an explanation to his remarks against Barack Obama:
“First of all, the facts I said were absolutely accurate, but I do think I was a little too hot. I had gone through a year of watching [Hillary] being attacked by the other side. She was called untruthful, manipulative, all those things they said. And she’s my wife and I love her. I also think she’s a great public servant and I didn’t think it was fair. I think the people that told me to chill out were giving me great advice.”
Bill also gives his reasons for getting a little nap in last week during MLK III speech:
“I had had three hours sleep two hours in a row, and it was hot and I had to sit there for four hours. The truth is, even when I was younger, I would’ve had a hard time going two nights on three hours of sleep both nights, and sitting in a hot church for four hours. I woke up when Shirley Franklin popped me and I thought I gave a good talk there.”
Click here if you happened to miss the Bill Clinton falling asleep footage last week.
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sell out!
MMMMM HMMMMM……..
What’s the big deal about him falling asleep? The man is old and he’s been making the rounds campaigning for his wife. I bet if I was on that stage, I would have fallen asleep too.
dont be fooled… bill fell alseep on purpose it’s all a gimmick to draw all the negative press away from hillary and on to him…
the clintons are hounds…
I don’t know Bill…
Looks like your going through a fall from grace..
Just like a black man to have it all then loose it..
I’m joking!! I just heard the the haters engines gearing up. But seriously….Bill needs to fall back!!
Cue Ms Jazz and her advertising just as soon as she gets the dick out her mouth…
While I’ve had enough of his racial (not racist) comments I definately didn’t judge him for falling asleep at church. I done it myself and I have seen Deacons and Pastors do it as well sitting in the pulpit. It happens to the best of us.
Now tell me why he brought up Jessie Jackson’s name? That’s what I want to know.
Bill Clinton gives an explanation to his remarks against Barack Obama:
“First of all, the facts I said were absolutely accurate, but I do think I was a little too hot. I had gone through a year of watching [Hillary] being attacked by the other side. She was called untruthful, manipulative, all those things they said.
^^^And so you take it out on Barack? GTFOH!!
And she’s my wife and I love her.
^^^That may be the case but, you sure as hell don’t respect her.
I also think she’s a great public servant and I didn’t think it was fair.
^^^^You don’t think it was fair they did this to Hillary, but it’s alright for you to do it Obama? How do you even argue that shit?
My god this man is such an egomainiac!! He is salivating at the chance to get back in the white house. Ya’ll know who’s gonna be runnin’ shit if Hillary wins? Bill. Oh she’ll look the part and all, but Bill is in charge, I don’t give a fuck what no one says. Because, I truly believe, if you capable of the shit you say are and can prove it, tell Bill to stay at home and woman-up..
@Bossip
Bill does need to calm down because any and everything he says is being taken out of context by the media just like bossip is doing.
In my book, Bill can do no wrong (smile)!
I do agree w/ him tho, Obama’s wife Michelle kicked off the hateration on Hilary…and then all Hilary’s comment where twisted…they are seriously hating on this woman for no reason! But the thing that really pisses me off, is that the media is not even showing how Obama attacks her! It’s as if the media is soo biased against Hilary, b/c ‘they’ don’t want her to win!
Sometimes I think it’s all a conspiracy to set Obama up to fail. I mean it would make sense. The media is displaying Obama as this great, charismatic, articulate, leader of change type of guy (not that I’m completely disagreeing w/ this observation) and then they’re trying to display Hilary as a racist by twisting her comments and actions…w/ headlines asking if she could cry her way back to the White House? WTF? I can’t believe that nobody is surprised about all the positive coverage of Obama and all the negative ones of Hilary? It just stands to reason that the media…along w/ other powerful people…are trying to get the masses to vote Obama for the pres primaries b/c they’ll know that a black man running will ensure that the Republicans will gain control of the white house…b/c they all know that if Hilary wins the democratic nomination…republicans won’t stand a chance in hell! Just my 2 cents!
kkoes
PRESIDENT CLINTON AND VICE PRESIDENT GORE
Working on Behalf of African Americans
Economy
Nearly 18 Million New Jobs. More than 90 percent of the new jobs have been created in the private sector, the highest percentage in 50 years.
Record-Low African American Unemployment. The unemployment rate for African Americans has fallen from 14.2 percent in 1992 to 8.9 percent in 1998 — the lowest annual level on record (data first collected in 1972)
Median Income of African American Households Is Up $3,354. The median income of African American households rose 4.3 percent (or $1,029) in 1997. And since 1993, the median income of African American households has increased from $21,696 to $25,050 — $3,354 or a 15-percent increase, adjusted for inflation, between 1993 and 1997.
Real Wages Are Rising for African Americans. The real wages of African Americans have risen rapidly in the past two years, up about 5.8 percent for African American men and 6.2 percent for African American women since 1996.
Tax Cuts For Low-Income Working Families. President Clinton’s 1993 Economic Plan provided tax cuts to 15 million hard-pressed working families by expanding the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC). The average family with two kids who received the EITC received a tax cut of $1,026. In 1997, the EITC lifted 1.1 million African Americans out of poverty.
Largest Four-Year Drop in African American Poverty in More than Twenty-Five Years. Since 1993, the African American poverty rate has dropped from 33.1 percent to 26.5 percent — the largest four-year drop in African American poverty in more than a quarter century (1967-1971) and 26.5 percent is the lowest level on record (data collected since 1959). While this decrease marks significant progress, President Clinton will continue to fight for policies that help to raise incomes andreduce poverty.
Child Poverty Among African Americans Down To Lowest Level on Record. In 1997, the African American child poverty rate fell from 39.9 percent in 1996 to 37.2 percent — its lowest level on record (data collected since 1959). Since 1993, the child poverty rate among African-Americans has dropped from 46.1 percent to 37.2 percent — the biggest four-year drop on record.
Minimum Wage Increased. The President raised the minimum wage to $5.15 an hour — directly benefitting 1.3 million African American workers.
Fighting for Paycheck Equity. The President has called on Congress to pass legislation to strengthen laws prohibiting wage discrimination. In 1997, the median earnings of African American women represented 65 percent of the median earnings for all men.
Two and a Half Times More Small Business Loans to African American Entrepreneurs. Between 1993 and 1997 the Small Business Administration (SBA) approved more than 9,000 loans to African American entrepreneurs under the 7(a) and 504 loan programs. In 1997 alone, the Small Business Administration granted 1,900 loans, worth $286 million, to African American small business owners, two and a half times the number of loans granted in 1992.
Supporting Minority Business Communities and Increasing Access to Capital. Building on the efforts of the SBA, Vice President Gore unveiled aggressive plans to increase lending and business services to the African American and Hispanic business communities nationwide. The SBA has set a goal of providing an estimated total of $1.86 billion in loans to African American small businesses over a three-year period. In addition, the Vice President announced an unprecedented agreement between SBA and the “Big Three” U.S. automakers to increase subcontracting awards to minority businesses by nearly $3 billion over the next three years — a 50 percent increase over current levels.
Ensuring Minority Business Owners Have a Fair Opportunity to Compete. The President signed the Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century into law on June 9, 1998. The Act protects the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise (DBE) Program, a program that ensures that minority and women owned businesses have an opportunity to compete for transportation projects. The Administration helped defeat an amendment to the House version of this bill that would have eliminated the DBE Program. In a different measure, the President also approved the creation of a new program to target assistance to minority-owned businesses in industries that continue to reflect the effects of discrimination. As a result, thousands of minority-owned businesses will be able to compete more effectively for government contracts.
Working on Behalf of Minority Farmers. The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) is working to strengthen programs and increase outreach targeted to underserved communities, including increasing its lending to minority and women producers. Between 1993 and 1998, direct lending to these groups has nearly doubled — from $46.5 million in FY93 to $91 million in FY98. The Administration is committed to righting any past wrongs by federal employees and worked with the Congress in 1998 to craft language contained in the Agriculture Appropriations bill that waives thetwo-year statute of limitations on discrimination complaints against USDA’s farm and housing loan programs. This waiver allows compensation to be provided to many minority farmers who were victims of discrimination by USDA from the early 1980’s through the 1990’s. On Jan. 5,1999, Agriculture Secretary Dan Glickman announced an historic agreement to settle the discrimination lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Agriculture brought by African American farmers. As President Clinton said regarding the settlement, “Today’s action is an important step in Secretary Glickman’s ongoing efforts to rid the Agriculture Department of discriminatory behavior and redress any harm that has been caused by past discrimination against African-American family farmers.”
Expanding Investment in Urban and Rural Areas. Spurring economic development in distressed communities, the Clinton Administration has created 31 Empowerment Zones and more than 100 Enterprise Communities that are creating new jobs, new opportunities and stronger communities. The FY99 budget included $60 million in flexible discretionary funding for the next round of Empowerment Zones and Enterprise Communities.
Helping People Get to Work. The Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century authorizes $750 million over five years, and the FY99 budget included $75 million, for the President’s Access to Jobs initiative and reverse commute grants to help communities design innovative transportation solutions so that families who need to work can get to work.
Providing Incentives to Save. The President signed into law a five-year, $125 million demonstration program for Individual Development Accounts, providing incentives for low income families to save for a first home, higher education, or to start a new business, effectively completing his 1992 community empowerment agenda.
Assisting Families with Housing Vouchers. Congress approved the President’s full request for 50,000 new vouchers exclusively for people who need housing assistance to make the transition from welfare to work.
Homeownership Is Up. There are more than seven million new homeowners since the President took office. African American homeownership has increased 20 percent with 974,000 new African American homeowners since the first quarter of 1994.
Helping More Families Become Homeowners with the “Play-by-the-Rules” Homeownership Initiative. The FY99 budget included $25 million for the Neighborhood Reinvestment Corporation to start this new initiative that will make homeownership more accessible to families who have a good rental history but have difficulty purchasing a home; 10,000 lower-income and minority families who are currently renting will benefit from this initiative.
Expanding Low-Income Housing Tax Credit by 40 Percent. In 1993, President Clinton fulfilled hispromise to permanently extend the Low-Income Housing Tax Credit, spurring the private development of low-income housing and helping to build 75,000-90,000 housing units each year. President Clinton has proposed to expand the credit by 40 percent. Over the next five years, this expansion would mean an additional 150,000 to 180,000 quality affordable rental units.
Building One America. The President has led the nation in an effort to become One America in the 21st Century: a place where we respect others’ differences and, at the same time, embrace the common values that unite us. Dr. John Hope Franklin, Advisory Board Chair, and Rev. Suzan Johnson Cook served on the Advisory Board to the President’s Initiative on Race, which the President charged with overseeing this effort. The President, the Administration and the Advisory Board were actively involved in public outreach efforts — including holding numerous public meetings and town halls — to engage Americans across the nation in this historic effort. One of the critical elements of the President’s Initiative on Race was identifying, highlighting and sharing with the nation promising practices — local and national efforts to promote racial reconciliation. The Advisory Board presented their final report to the President on September 18, 1998, and recommended that conversations on race continue.
Creating an Administration that Looks Like One America. The President appointed the most diverse Cabinet and Administration in history. The Clinton Cabinet includes three African Americans: Rodney Slater, Secretary of the Department of Transportation; Togo West, Jr., Secretary of Veterans Affairs and Alexis Herman, Secretary of Labor. Additionally, African Americans serve in the Administration as Surgeon General, Deputy Attorney General for the Department of Justice, Director of the National Park Service, Deputy Secretary of Commerce, Department of Education General Counsel and as the Department of Education’s Chief of Staff. Thirteen percent of Clinton Administration appointees are African American, which is twice as many African Americans as any previous administration. White House appointees include: Bob Nash, Assistant to the President and Director of Presidential Personnel; Thurgood Marshall, Jr., Assistant to the President and Director of Cabinet Affairs; Minyon Moore, Assistant to the President and Director of Political Affairs; Cheryl Mills, Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy Counsel and Ben Johnson, Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy Director of Public Liaison; Alphonso (Al) Maldon, Deputy Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs; and Tracey Thornton, Deputy Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs.
Increasing the Number of Judicial Appointments. President Clinton has named 14 African Americans as U.S. Attorneys and 12 African Americans as U.S. Marshals. The President has nominated 57 African Americans to the Federal bench, 16 percent of his total Federal bench nominations.
Ordered an Assessment of Affirmative Action Programs. The President ordered a comprehensive review of the government’s affirmative action programs which concluded that affirmative action is still an effective and important tool to expand educational and economic opportunity to all Americans. This review of federal affirmative action programs has helped to ensure that these programs are fair and effective and that they can survive legal challenges. As a result, programs that benefit African Americans, including students, working men and women, and business owners, remain in effect andare more likely to be upheld by the courts.
Reducing Backlog and Expanding Alternative Dispute Resolution at Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). The FY99 budget included $279 million — a $37 million increase over the previous year — to significantly expand EEOC’s alternative dispute resolution program and reduce the backlog of private sector discrimination complaints. The final budget fully funds the President’s request — providing the first real increase for EEOC in several years.
Creating a National Memorial to Honor Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. In July of 1998, President Clinton signed a new measure authorizing the creation of a national monument to Dr. King on the National Mall in Washington, D.C.
Opposed California Prop. 209 and Similar Measures. The Clinton Administration strongly opposes state and local initiatives to eliminate affirmative action programs that expand opportunities for African Americans and others. The Administration opposed Proposition 209 in California and filed amicus briefs opposing Prop. 209, which currently prohibits state affirmative action programs. The Clinton Administration opposed a similar initiative in Houston, which was defeated and opposed an initiative in Washington that is similar to Prop. 209. In all these cases, representatives of the administration have spoken out strongly against these initiatives as unfair and a barrier to equality.
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Great post that I thought should be repeated.
Bill Clinton gives an explanation to his remarks against Barack Obama:
“First of all, the facts I said were absolutely accurate, but I do think I was a little too hot. I had gone through a year of watching [Hillary] being attacked by the other side. She was called untruthful, manipulative, all those things they said.
^^^And so you take it out on Barack? GTFOH!!
And she’s my wife and I love her.
^^^That may be the case but, you sure as hell don’t respect her.
I also think she’s a great public servant and I didn’t think it was fair.
^^^^You don’t think it was fair they did this to Hillary, but it’s alright for you to do it Obama? How do you even argue that shit?
My god this man is such an egomainiac!! He is salivating at the chance to get back in the white house. Ya’ll know who’s gonna be runnin’ shit if Hillary wins? Bill. Oh she’ll look the part and all, but Bill is in charge, I don’t give a fuck what no one says. Because, I truly believe, if you capable of the shit you say are and can prove it, tell Bill to stay at home and woman-up..
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Umm…excuse me ‘helltonaw’ but when Bill was in office where you this outrage w/ him and his character? Or is this just something that happened once you found out that a black man was his competition? It’s soo typical of a black person to be racist and bias…my people where does it end?
@ Coop -
Again I ask, where was this outrage when the Clinton’s where in office? It amazes me that everybody in their mama are googling all this negative ish…but back in the early 90’s I didn’t see not one black person advocating for Bill’s resignation…or did I see anyone talking about how horrible of a job he did while in office…
I am so voting for Obama. The Clintons and the Bushes have had the White House Long Enough. Thats Two Families in the last 20 years. Dum Dum Bush who almost got us into world war six and Freaky Bill. C’mon people.
Hilary has the sincerity of a gnat, and her husband really need to mind his own business and let Hilary do her own campaigning. He’s got a nerve to sling mud at Obama when he was in the White House getting his wad blown by Monica Lewinsky? What a suspect ass trifling nigga.
Angel_Minded
Umm…excuse me ‘helltonaw’ but when Bill was in office where you this outrage w/ him and his character? Or is this just something that happened once you found out that a black man was his competition? It’s soo typical of a black person to be racist and bias…my people where does it end?
^^^Angel, WTF?? Because any black person opposes Bill Clintion, now we’re fuckin’ racists? Please.. Just because you posted how he did all of these “wonderful” things for the black community, does not excuse him for acting like an ass. He doesn’t get a pass. He’s showing his true fuckin’ colors and being a fuckin’ hypocrite.. That’s the issue I take with him and Hillary, they ARE LIARS and they don’t play fair.. It doesn’t have anything to do with Bill’s race. I find it funny that you want to call black people racists when they are in opposition to him, what the hell does that make you then? You are just as biased. Why can’t you accept that every black person doesn’t have to ride this man’s dick like he was some fuckin’ savior. Most successful black people are where they are today because THEY MADE that shit happen. There are black people that are motivated and about their business who are gonna make things happen regardless of who’s sittin’ in the white house. Please get your head out of your ass.
Oh and Angel, just to let you know, I was in high school when all this shit went down. And to answer your question, I thought he was just as sleazy as he was back then as he is now. No fuckin’ repsect for his wife. And then the muthafucker outright lies..SMH
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@Angel_Minded
I never said one bad thing about the Clinton’s.
KILLING SOFTLY … SO THEY THINK
(PART ONE)
By Dr. Carlos E. Russell
Barack Obama is the first African American who has ever had a realistic shot at becoming President of this country. While others have made the race, they ran to espouse and expose pertinent issues but, in truth, their chances to claim possession of the “Whitehouse” were not worth a tinker’s dam. This is not to minimize the importance of the races these men and women ran. Neither is it being said to infer any negativity on the merits of their candidacies or to impugn their motives. Their involvement was crucial and, in many ways, set the stage for Senator Obama’s bid. It is said solely to place the magnitude of Mr. Obama’s quest and the challenges he faces in its proper perspective. Obama’s realistic opportunity has served to uncover many of the not so hidden realities in the Black community and unleash the not too hidden forces that fear his possible victory.
Here is what I mean. Obama’s ability to remain a credible candidate has compelled those Blacks who have been historically loyal to those who fed them at the through to now make a choice. Some have chosen to publicly express their loyalty to those who once fed them and to work against Mr. Obama. Let me be clear! That is their right! Others, who style themselves as “super-duper” blacks but who realistically command little within our heterogeneous community, in order to maintain their “revolutionary” status now suggest that he is “not Black enough.” What precisely does that mean? There are still others who, seeking an excuse to stay in lockstep with their “white friends.” regurgitate the “Clintonian” mantra “he does not have the experience.”
Sadly, in my view, those who have chosen to take any of the above positions do not have a clue as to the reality of America today and how close they are to be totally irrelevant in the schemata and continuing saga of white America. Worst, and again my view, those who do so, I would argue, suffer from an organic dislike of selves and are intrinsically interwoven with the vision and peculiar interest of their former overt slave masters.
Some Black women, I have been made to understand, have been expressing a political identification with their gender rather than with their race forgetting, or perhaps, have never seen the faded pictures of those smiling white women standing around a lynching tree and now believe that the playing field is level find no contradiction in identifying themselves with their gender and not their race. Jenna has not yet penetrated their psyches.
The Jewish people rightfully say “Never Again” Somehow we seem to have forgotten our past and are willing to forgive and forget. One can forgive but one should never forget.
I am not suggesting or inferring that Obama should be supported simply because he is Black that would be simplistic and suicidal. For starters remember Clarence Thomas! What I am suggesting is that the arguments presented by some Blacks for not supporting his candidacy are politically motivated designed to hide their self deprecation and, as such, are blatantly nonsensical. What experience did Harry S.Truman, the haberdasher, as he was called, have? None compared to Obama’s.
The not “Black enough” does not deserve a response. Suffice it to ask “If Obama is not Black enough then who among the candidate is? Hillary? Please… Let’s be real!
I understand loyalty but again loyalty at what cost? Is a victory by Hillary more important to the Black community than a victory by Obama? I think not! No matter how “progressive” she “could” turn out to be, it could never compare with the victory of a progressive African American! Think, for a moment, what the sound of “President Obama” would mean to so many young Black men and women across this nation! In a sense it would be like what JFK’s victory meant to Catholics—especially Irish Catholics.
Recognizing the self imposed dilemma facing some Blacks; those whites who viscerally oppose his candidacy are salivating at the possibility of a Black split which would guarantee a victory for Ms. Clinton and keep the primary power seat in America white as snow. For them, “better a woman than a Black!” Hence, as a means of manipulating the minds of the electorate– especially of those whites who surprisingly have strongly supported Mr. Obama — there are now polls that constantly speak of “the split” in the Black community. This, as I see it, is designed to send the message “see his own community does not support him, why should we?” Obviously, they intend it to have an equal effect on the Black community with a slightly different twist “He can’t win why should I waste my vote.”
Blacks and the growing number of whites and Latinos who want a change in direction: who want a thoughtful President, one who desires to reconstruct America and set it on a new path should not be fooled! I believe that Barack Obama can, and, with our continued collective effort, support and steadfastness, will win. If this were not so those who oppose him would not be trying so hard to derail his candidacy by promoting the alleged division among Blacks, the possibility of his being assassinated and the inevitable “coronation” of Hillary Clinton. In my view, Ms. Clinton is not unbeatable. Let us not forget that Truman beat Dewey!
Adam Powell said it best…. “Keep the Faith Baby!” So too did Frederick Douglass when he said “without struggle there is no progress.”
Let us not permit them to take us out of stride or for a ride down never-never land!
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@helltothanaw
I think Angel_Minded is say that some people are forget about the good that the Clinton’s have done.
Finally the truth:
Bill and Hillary Clinton are race baiters!!!!
Hillary should never be able to win on the Backs of Blacks, they proved that they are no better than your average Southern race baiter, as soon as there is a problem they look for the nearest person of color to attack and lie about.
Angel_Minded
In my book, Bill can do no wrong (smile)!
I do agree w/ him tho, Obama’s wife Michelle kicked off the hateration on Hilary…and then all Hilary’s comment where twisted…they are seriously hating on this woman for no reason! But the thing that really pisses me off, is that the media is not even showing how Obama attacks her! It’s as if the media is soo biased against Hilary, b/c ‘they’ don’t want her to win!
Sometimes I think it’s all a conspiracy to set Obama up to fail. I mean it would make sense. The media is displaying Obama as this great, charismatic, articulate, leader of change type of guy (not that I’m completely disagreeing w/ this observation) and then they’re trying to display Hilary as a racist by twisting her comments and actions…w/ headlines asking if she could cry her way back to the White House? WTF? I can’t believe that nobody is surprised about all the positive coverage of Obama and all the negative ones of Hilary? It just stands to reason that the media…along w/ other powerful people…are trying to get the masses to vote Obama for the pres primaries b/c they’ll know that a black man running will ensure that the Republicans will gain control of the white house…b/c they all know that if Hilary wins the democratic nomination…republicans won’t stand a chance in hell! Just my 2 cents!
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I agree with a lot of what you have said but in no way can Hilary or Obama win if they are nominated.
@Gymo
In no way is that the truth. The true issue is the media twisting everything around.
‘helltonaw’
I sincerly doubt that all the people that have wrote…or should I say…copy and pasted anything negative about the Clintons felt anything negative about him during his term in office. Now you claimed to have disliked him even back then…smh…yeah I’m sure…I guess it was that level of dislike and digust that got him elected for a 2nd term…right? lol- the thing is, is that the Clinton’s have never done anything negative or blantantly racist to any black person in America…but if believing the media’s proganda about the Clinton’s help you sleep at night…then more power to ya! But deep down inside I think…and always have believed that black people are racist, and biased. And this election is proving my theory! People are letting the media pump ya up w/ this black savior…Obama…don’t fall for the hype!
Coop
@helltothanaw
I think Angel_Minded is say that some people are forget about the good that the Clinton’s have done.
^^^Coop, if that’s the case then she/he needs to say it and stop insinuating, that because a black person talks bad about or disagrees with Clintons, they are racist or biased. That’s ignorant and racist in and of itself. NEWS FLASH!!!! some of us black folks, can actually make informed independent
thoughts and decisions on our own.. SMFH…
the attacks did not start until Mr. Obama took Iowa-an mostly white state. Billary KNEW that would dangerous-Obama took 24% of the white vote because of Billary’s focus on the black community. Their plans to poison white voters to not vote for him cause Obama is black has severely backfired, and will continue to do so.
Billary claims experience. Maybe from Bill;’s side, but not Hillary.
We need a change.
We can change.
Yes, we change.
Obama is change we can believe in.
http://www.barackobama.com
Obama 2008
24% of the white vote in S.C.
Angel_Minded
is that the Clinton’s have never done anything negative or blantantly racist to any black person in America..
^^^^Ummm, wow.. I’m speechless at this comment.. Anyways, what to do you call what Bill is doing to Barack? You don’t find that to be negative? You don’t find what Hillary Clinton said about MLK to be offensive? You don’t find how Bill treated Lani Guiner(sp)to be shitty? I highly doubt, that most of us, are looking to Barack or anyone else to save us, we can do that just fine. I think most of are tired of the same ol’ establishment, we are sick of this shit. Period. I’m tired of seeing the same ol’ faces who ain’t about shit and aint gonna do shit..
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I am so voting for Barack Obama. The Clintons and the Bushes have had the White House Long Enough. Thats TWO Families in the last 20 years of the Presidency! Dum Dum Bush who almost got us into world war six and Freaky Bill. C’mon people.
Hilary has the sincerity of a gnat, and her husband really need to mind his own business and let Hilary do her own campaigning. And they are race baiters cause they never expected Obama to pose a real threat to her candidacy.
Bill’s got a nerve to sling mud at Obama when he was in the White House getting his wad blown by Monica Lewinsky? What a suspect ass trifling nigga.
can anyone provide a link to the article or video where michelle kicked off the hateration on hillary?
by the way, check the south carolina numbers, prior to the caucus, msm made it appear it was a predominantly white state, after the massive turnout now it is a predominantly black state, did the census change there in a week or something? any ideas?
‘helltonaw’
SMH…your level of ignorance is stifling! Lol - Anything that Bill/Hilary have said about Obama they’ve said it in retailiation of the Obama administration. What do you expect them to do? Just sit back and let the media and Obama slander their name and record? That’s complete bullshyt! As I’ve said before Michelle Obama kicked off the hateration when she made that comment about Bill’s infidelity - which was completely below the belt - or side swipping - lol! Let’s not forget that Obama twisted Hilary’s comment about MLK - and just so you know, she was right - she acknowledged MLK’s place during the Civil Rights Movement but also stated that it took SOMEONE IN CONGRESS TO LEGALIZE MLK dream…or else it would still be A DREAM!
Now, as far as I remember Bill had an extremely high approval rating…from both whites and blacks…hmmm…something to think about…I think you need to do some UNBIASED research before you start slandering anyone!
@ Angel_Minded
Ok.. Angel I see where you stand..
Fuck the fact that this man LIED!! Fuck the fact that he continues to race-bait by making liitle snide remarks, that insist are just retaliation for what Obama says… Whatever.. You want to talk about me being biased and slandering people? What the hell do you think you did when just posted this: “But deep down inside I think…and always have believed that black people are racist, and biased.”
You generalized every single one of us based on your simple minded assessment from a few experiences that you’ve had. And you call me ignorant?
OBAMA 08!
Both Clintons are liars.
if you had a wife that you loved,an she was goin up against a prominent charismatic black candidate, what would you do. cause when i read comments on bossip it makes me think that bill clinton did something wrong.he may have cheated on her(alot of men an women cheat)but at the end of the day thats his wife an hes gonna defend her.shit, even the people that dont like obama dont shit on his name like yall do the clintons.
@ helltothanaw
As a matter of fact, yes I do! I do call you and every other black person that agrees w/ you ignorant!
What lie are you talking about? Are you referring to when Bill denied receiving a blow job? Okay, so he lied to save face, but he doesn’t owe you nor me an explanation about what he does in his personal life. The only person he owes any explanation or apology to is his wife. Secondly, if what he does in his personal life doesn’t directly affect the American people, how is this your problem? Obama flips/flops everytime it’s convienent for him, yet you call Clinton a liar? To me that is a clear example of being biased. And what makes you a racist, is b/c you refuse to vote or choose to vote for someone based on race.
@helltothanaw…
no disrespect but how can you be speechless at that comment? its called a dirty campaign an nothin more. bill or his wife are nor racists. people dont remember when bill was in office their was no war(maybe a few police actions like what happened in bosnia,an somalia)but we were by all means friends with the russians( a nuclear power),we were even cool with yasser arafat.(PLO leader)the point is we havent had peace like that since bush took office.
@ helltothanaw
Furthermore, what racist comment has Bill made?
The media is turning this into a race thing, not the Clintons.
2008 is OBAMA’s time!and I think Bill Clinton knows it but like he said Hillary is his wife and he loves her and has to defend and support her.
I’ve considered many possibilities, even a bipartisan ticket. But I’m beginning to see that OBAMA/EDWARDS can win.
OBAMA 2008!
YES HE CAN!
OBAMA 2008!
@Coop
In no way is that the truth. The true issue is the media twisting everything around.
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Coop, don’t be silly, we heard these statements from Bill Clinton mouth.
He made these anti-Black race baiting statements and we/I heard him say them in his speeches.
Coop, please don’t apologize for the Clintons, have too many Blacks doing that against other Blacks.
@angel_minded
obama NEVER twisted hilary’s words on MLK…he saw it as a non issue..YOU are falling under the foolish divide and conquer tacts by bill and hilary
just because BILL did sooo many “great” things while in office…hardly any specifically for BLACK people doesn’t mean that hilary will do the same.
and a president does NOT have a personal life while he’s president…everything he does is reflective of US because he’s our leader smh
and please…all hilary has DONE for the past year is flip flop and give vague answers
just because michelle obama “started” it means what exactly? I was under the impression that just because someone says something about you doesn’t mean you go right back after them…rather childish hmm?
to call someone’s opinion ignorant is ignorance in itself..
i could just assume you’re one of those high and mighty blacks who refuse to look stupid by doing the predictable vote for the black candidate because you dont want it to seem like you aren’t intelligent enough to make a decision…
a foolish quasi intellectual
you need to realize obama is actually a GREAT…85% of analyst agree….stop shitting on him because you are voting or backing hilary
The Clintons race-baiting was so bad that %70 of Whites in South Carolina said the Clintons were race baiting. (see CNN poll)
Sorry for the typos-typing too fast:
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The Clintons race-baiting was so bad that 70% of Whites in South Carolina said the Clintons were race baiting. (see CNN poll)
and to the people with such bad memories
there was a terrorist attack during clinton’s administration…
bush was inaugurated in 2001, the same year of the 9/11 attacks…..partially his fault and partially the fault of the previous administration who deeply hurt ties to the middle eastern leaders
Angel_Minded
@ helltothanaw
As a matter of fact, yes I do! I do call you and every other black person that agrees w/ you ignorant!
What lie are you talking about? Are you referring to when Bill denied receiving a blow job? Okay, so he lied to save face, but he doesn’t owe you nor me an explanation about what he does in his personal life. The only person he owes any explanation or apology to is his wife. Secondly, if what he does in his personal life doesn’t directly affect the American people, how is this your problem? Obama flips/flops everytime it’s convienent for him, yet you call Clinton a liar? To me that is a clear example of being biased. And what makes you a racist, is b/c you refuse to vote or choose to vote for someone based on race.
^^^Angel did you ever see me post once, whom I was voting for? No. You did not. How do you know, I’m going to vote for Obama, if I don’t outright say so? Oh shit… I forgot, since I’m black and sooo fuckin dumb, I’m automatically going to vote for Barack.. Your comments says volumes about how stupid you think all black folks are. Oh and NO its not OK that he lied, about gettin’ head. If you lie about that, what the fuck else are you lying to us about? I don’t even know why I’m wasting my time arguing with your silly ass. Bottom line is this, if Hillary wins, the Repubs will crush her. Period. Especially, if McCain gets the republican nod. They can’t fuckin’ wait. Bill Clinton will not be able to save her ass. You’ll see the light one day, just as soon as you pull your head out of your ass, and stop smellin’ your own shit.. And one final suggestion, please read the book “Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome”. It should serve you well.
keith.
@helltothanaw…
no disrespect but how can you be speechless at that comment? its called a dirty campaign an nothin more.
^^^That still doesn’t make it acceptable, Keith.. Are you telling me that you aren’t fed up with people doing and saying anything to get into the White House? If you run a dirty campaign, the is testment to what lengths you will go to get what you want. How can you expect people to think highly of you?
@ ari
Thank you.
Ok so what is it called when Obama flip flops? What’s that called?
One of the interesting things that I saw on, ‘The View,’ was how they was saying in France the president (I think he was the pres) had gotten a divorce and was dating a younger woman…and the people of France didn’t care one way or the other…b/c he was a good leader! Up unitl the whole ’scandal’ began everyone pretty much agreed that Bill was an excellent president and now he’s a racist?
So let me ask this, if I were to tell you that Martin Luther King was an adulter and communist would that take away everything that he’s done for the black community? SMDH…
I get the impression that there are people on this blog saying to Black people “The Clintons own you and you don’t have a choice so shut up and vote for Hillary”
NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Slavery is over, I repeat, slavery is over, Black can vote for or support whoever they want.
END OF NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did not do much for Blacks, take a look at the stats for College enrollments for Blacks, take a look at the pay disparity between Blacks and Whites, they didn’t change, but if you were an upper middle class Black or White then you made money on the stock market. There was no new initiative launched by Clinton to help poor Blacks, none!
So, slippery Bill don’t come race baiting to the Black community, or there will be more South Carolina throughout the country.
@ Angel_Minded
MLK- never held the highest government position in this country and lied about what he did. If Bill, was honest, then may maybe and I say this with doubt, he may get an inkling of my respect, but that’s not the case.
And please understand this, just becasue a white person, or any other person of color smiles in your fuckin’ face or and says their care about X, Y and Z, yada, yada, yada, does not mean that they aren’t racists. Black people just can’t be ignored, especially when it comes to something as critical as getting votes, so of course they’ll pander to us..
Angel_Minded
So let me ask this, if I were to tell you that Martin Luther King was an adulter and communist would that take away everything that he’s done for the black community? SMDH…
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So that’s what the Clintons are now spreading against MLK. What’s the plan destroy a great Black leader and it will force Blacks to worship Bill and Hillary.
@Coop
Your points on all the things that Bill has done for blacks was on point. But lets not forget a few other things:
Crime Bill — Three strikes and your out anyone? Also in 1995 the US Sentencing Commission recommended equalizing the quantity of crack and powder cocaine that would trigger a mandatory sentence. Congress rejected the recommendation and Bill signed it into law.
Lani Guinier — Remember her? Bill nominted her for Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights. Conservatives called her the “Quota Queen”. When she was getting slammed by the conservatives and the press for her views, Bill withdrew her nomination and acted like he didn’t know she was for racial quotas as opposed to affirmative action. However he’d know her for years and knew her position on the issue, but sold her out instead of having her back.
Rawanda!! — How many people died and our first black president did nothing? Was it even officially recognized as a Genocide?
And please don’t get me started on that so-called welfare reform…..
Now, I will be the first to admit that I benefited career wise with Clinton in office. The mid to late 90s was a great time for my field (technical writer) but, policywise Bill hasn’t always done right by us. And the things he said up til the SC primary and after Obama one, have completely turned me off. I live in Charleston, SC and it was ugly watching the news every night. Oh yeah I guess you can tell I voted for Obama :-).
that would be after Obama won
my bad.
Clinton needs to play his position as an elder statesman. Look at Al Gore. Go do something positive. Stay out of the political mudslinging.
Obama has the advantage of looking new and fresh. I think at this point, Americans are sick (and scared) of the same old same old. It’s like another Clinton might work out about as well as another Bush did. Not that Hillary is anywhere near as bad as Dubya, but I think that’s what people are feeling.
Anyway, TEAM OBAMA!!!!!
@ Kim - there will never be a perfect president or candidate. After reading all the negative things that you’ve said about the Clintons, do you honestly believe that Obama will have a perfect presidency? When people are inexperienced they have a tendacy to make more errors, as oppose to someone who’s used to the system of politics. It’s easy for you to write up all the negatives of his terms, but what about the benefits?
@ Gymo
Nobody is asking you to worship anybody! It is what it is. Anybody w/ an ounce of sense will tell you that there was nothing racist about her comment. See this is what I mean by biased and racist. Everything that Hilary does is magnified 100x but when Obama says or does anything that’s less than flattering, it gets swept under the rug. It’s all a conspiracy and propaganda.
helltothanaw
Okay I only read like the first sentence of your comment before I felt the need to respond.
So MLK needs to be held to the highest level in government before you or anyone else can hold him accountable for his actions? What kind of bullshyt is this? MLK has a special day in rememberance of all the things that he’s done for black people! So it’s okay for him to have a special place in history for the positive things that he’s done, but yet nobody talks about his questionable behavior in his personal life?
To a lot of white people, MLK represents ‘us’ so technically that same idealogy, about the pres of the u.s representing the american people should still apply in MLK situation? Right?
“can anyone provide a link to the article or video where michelle kicked off the hateration on hillary?”———————————————————————————————
Back in August of last year, Michele said something like “How can we expect her (Hillary) to be able to run the Whitehouse, when she can’t run her own house.” She was referring to President Clinton’s very public infidelity.
The funny thing is that Clinton’s barely raised an eyebrow to that comment. Then when Obama defeated them in Iowa, the gloves came off. The Clintons decided to try to turn it into a race and gender election. Clinton supporters will have you believe that Obama’s camp started the mud-slinging and they always point to what Michele said way back in August. In the words of Bill Clinton…Give me a Break!
****needs to be in the highest level of government before anyone can…
****typos
who said anything about being a perfect president….its about who can do that job the best…and honestly dirty campaigning only gives off that idea that your position isn’t good enough to stand on its own, so you have to knock the opposition down to build yourself up..
i have never supported that..and will never support that
there will always be pros and cons to a president’s term in office and it’s foolish to pick and choose.
the reality is…you are talking more about BILL than you are about hilary..and last time i checked bill isn’t running for president
President Bill Clinton did not do anything for Blacks.
During the Clinton era Whites got really, really rich, Blacks got a few more jobs.
There was an economic up turn in the U.S. economy and investors expanded, but beyond that I DARE! andyone to show me one, just one policy that Clinton enacted to help Blacks.
1. Was it withdrawing Welfare benefits from inner city Blacks with children while keeping Benefits for out of city Whites?
2. Was it signing free trade agreements that shipped non College jobs to Mexico?
3. Was it lecturing the Black community to show Whites that he was master of the Blacks?
4. Was it NEVER! standing in support of a Black appointee?
if MLK was an adulterer and LIED when caught…I would have far less respect for him….i’d appreciate all he had down…but would not respect him
@Angel_Minded - Why do you keep attacking MLK, did he do something to you?
OR, Are you being paid by the Clintons to destroy his good name?
You are a weasly of a character.
Please do every Black person a favor and stop referring to MLK.
Angel_Minded
Can you prove any of MLK’s so-called “questionable behavior?”
And to all of those that think the Clinton’s were so good to Blacks, and think that this current Administration is so terrible remember this:
Bill Clinton is the reason that Gore lost and Bush was elected in the first place
Bill squandered the last years of his Presidency wasting taxpayers money, time, and patience while trying to defend himself from impeachment. He lied under oath, to God, to his wife, and to the American people. He screwed Gore out of the presidency.
So, indirectly, Bill is to blame for the shape the country is in today.
I am so mad at that weasly Angel_Minded, quoting that known racist FBI director Hoover, when he tried to slime MLK by calling him a communist and an adulterer.
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Hoover wanted to destroy MLK so you lied and schemed perhaps was involved in MLK death.
So, here comes Angel_Minded quoting this racist for Bill and Hillary Clinton.
I see we will have a Republican back in office once again! Because if Hillary don’t win, will you vote for Obama and vice versa. Or will you say fuck it and vote Republican.
People need to professing that they hate one Candidate sooooo much like they did something so personal to them! No one has been worse than Retarded Ass Harvard Grad George Bush!
who said anything about being a perfect president….its about who can do that job the best…and honestly dirty campaigning only gives off that idea that your position isn’t good enough to stand on its own, so you have to knock the opposition down to build yourself up..
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Exactly! And Obama has done that. So according to your logic, what makes Obama better than Hilary?
@ Angel_Minded
^^^Please see below Ari and Gymo and Kdogg posts.. That should sum up how I feel. I’m done playing with you. Peace
Can you prove any of MLK’s so-called “questionable behavior?”
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Hell YEAH!!!!
There are plenty of books written about MLK w/ substantial evidence proving everything that I said!
One book is called, ‘Martin Luther King: Man Behind the Myth,’ I forget the authors name but you can look it up on amazon.com
kdogg - what happens in his personal life has nothing to do w/ his presidency. He doesn’t owe us anything!!!! All he has to do is run the country to the best of his ability, we all fall short, nobody is perfect…not even your precious Obama.
Angel_Minded said:
“What lie are you talking about? Are you referring to when Bill denied receiving a blow job? Okay, so he lied to save face, but he doesn’t owe you nor me an explanation about what he does in his personal life. ”
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Are you serious? You can’t be. That has to be a typo. I’m not even going to comment on this. I’ll just put it out there and let it float around on its own. Wheeeeeeeee!!!
@ Ari - well now you know about MLK’s past. Do you feel like you’re entitled to an apology? He lead you to believe that he was this great christian man w/ christian values…he betrayed you and the black community…
Now see, this is my point, when a black man is flawed it’s okay. But when it’s a white man…you hear, ‘Oh he’s a liar,’ etc., this is what I mean by biased! You can’t condemn one and not the other! Either you’re outraged by MLK AND Clinton…or neither!
Angel_Minded
So let me ask this, if I were to tell you that Martin Luther King was an adulter and communist would that take away everything that he’s done for the black community? SMDH…
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So that’s what the Clintons are now spreading against MLK. What’s the plan destroy a great Black leader and it will force Blacks to worship Bill and Hillary.
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Knee-Jerks are in full effect today.
Gymo, why don’t you calm your reactionist ass down. it’s common knowledge that MLK was a notorious skirt chaser and a communist sympathizer. He was also a plagerist. How you like them apples? Not saying that I don’t appreciate or benefit from the civil rights movement, but I’m just saying . . .
@Kim
who cares about Lani Gunier? You all are acting like Bill had no blacks in his cabinet or submitted no black judicial nominees for federal circut court appointments. If you really want to play that game, then Pres. Bush has the best track record yet, when appointing blacks to key cabinet positions. Unlike Clinton, Bush let blacks run the State Department.
As for your Rwanda remark. Can you be a bit more selective with your histroy,please? Oh how we forget how Clinton and American soldiers were at the forefront of the UN peacekeeping mission to Somalia, but eventually withdrew because the American public couldn’t stomach the CNN images of the bodies of their soldiers corpses being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu. If you don’t wanna bother to actually read information from someplace other than Bossip, then go to fucking Blockbuster Video and rent “BLack Hawk Down.” Clinton didn’t intervene in Rwanda, until after the fact, for the same reasons why the rest of the developed world sat idlely by during the genocide. And please don’t try to front like you’re so certain that Obama wouldn’t have done the same.
And sorry, but Clinton welfare reform did indeed get more recipients off of the rolls and working, but that also had a lot to do with the state of economy during the Clinton administration.
Kdogg - it was in his personal life!!!! It didn’t/shouldn’t take away from what he did as a president! It didn’t/shouldn’t take away from the policies and laws that were passed, that kept our ecnomy in a great state!
show you’re true colors bill.
@ kara kor el
Cosign completely!
“Bill Clinton is the reason that Gore lost and Bush was elected in the first place
Bill squandered the last years of his Presidency wasting taxpayers money, time, and patience while trying to defend himself from impeach